ls1 swap vs. super charger

[nino]

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Bliggida:


I could have every part...every single little part that is required for a complete swap for less than 4,000. And that is not only including the LS1, but also the transmission with it!<hr></blockquote>


not if you get it from hpsalvage. marks cheapest was 3,700 and that was automatic M6 was 4,200.

[SLOWBRAEATER]

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Bliggida:
That completely depends on what insurance company you are with.
How would they find out? You think Joe-Schmo Insurance Investigator is going to tell the differance between a mangled 3.8 Liter and a mangled LS1??? No. Unless the car makes it to the repair shop and they say, "oh you need a waterpump" You simply tell the shop not to write it down, you'll get your own. They'll fix paint, body, mechanics not relating to powertrain. That's that.

If you really want to be technical, Insurance can claim any modification done to your V6 to make it faster than what the insurance company has insured you for as a breech of contract.

Insurance will do the same thing for a 300 horsepower supercharged V6 as they will a stock LS1. If you tell them what you've done they are going to say you can't do it and you're in violation.

But, truth is, they cannot drop you for any reason. They have to abide by their own rules. They would first have to prove the wreck was directly caused by your having swapped a V8 into the car. What if you were parked in a lot and some drunk smashes into you..."Oh my gosh you had a V8 in there, we are not going to cover you"
BULL$&!#

Oh and to get the same performance out of a Supercharged V6 as a stock LS1, you are going to spend the same amount of money. The only 10lb. capable kit right now is the one from Mach Performance. And its selling beta testers at 4,XXX dollars.

I could have every part...every single little part that is required for a complete swap for less than 4,000. And that is not only including the LS1, but also the transmission with it!<hr></blockquote>

you,sir are an idiot and are completely wrong. MOST insurance companys even if you total the car will have the car looked at, probably even have someon e investagate how and why whatever happened, after popping the hood and seeing a motor about twice as big and without the 3800 series two they will then have you most likely put in jail for insurance fraud, you sound like this one dude who lives by me that thinks he can do whatever he wants and johnny law cant do a damn thing about it because its him. :rolleyes:

[SLOWBRAEATER]

keith, i understand the ls1 is very awesome compared to the v6 but in one post you say your going for king of the hill of the n/a ls1, Im willing to bet that you wont do that with 3.23 gears and that one of your mods will be atleast 3.73 gears, but most likely 4.10

[Magnus]

Current NA Stock Internal king of the hill runs 3.23 gear. ;)

I will setup the car perfectly, then wait for the perfect racing weather. :D

[Shirl]

posted by slowbraeater
MOST insurance companys even if you total the car will have the car looked at, probably even have someon e investagate how and why whatever

Exactly!! This is what I as going to add. They will come and LOOK at the car after an accident because they need to assess the damages. Any modification or swap to the motor you have is considered insurance fraud if you do not notify the insurance company of the change. :eek:

[Bliggida]

If the modification didn't purposely cause the accident, they cannot justify dropping you from coverage. You are protected by law as much as they are against fraud.

Nino there are other places to get LS1's than from Mark.

[greatsave9]

Ive never drivin a S/C'd car, but I have drivin a LS1, and the power is always there, and its stock, so you can either mod it out more, and you wont have problems like you would a S/C I say....

So LS1 is the way to go!

[Bliggida]

Superchargers pose no problems if you build it right.

[SLOWBRAEATER]

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Bliggida:
If the modification didn't purposely cause the accident, they cannot justify dropping you from coverage. You are protected by law as much as they are against fraud.

Nino there are other places to get LS1's than from Mark.<hr></blockquote>

actually they can justify dropping you because i gvuarantee when they see you dont have a v6 in there, which is why your insurance was cheaper in the first place they will automatically say well if you didnt have that 300 hp v8 in there then we wouldnt have any problems, they will tell you that is why v8 insurance is more expensive, and since you neglected to tell them about the v8 it IS insurance frayd, man im not even gonna reply again you are like this one dude that lives by me, thinks they are the law and nothing pertains to them... its like trying to beat a dead horse :rolleyes:

[Mighty Thor]

If you really want a challenge I say get a SC and put your V6 to another level. The 3800 V6 engine is one of the best engine in the world, according to Wards. It can take a lot of punishment. And it is more satisfying to know that you are among the few who has done it.

LS1 is no challenge at all. It's already fast off the bat and it can even be more faster with a few modification. It's really up to you and what your goals are.

[blackbyrd]

i didnt realize by posting this i was going to cause a legal debate. lol this is further down the road im talking 2or 3 years. i have been thinking about charging the 6er but i was thinking to myslef if im gonna get rid of the engine why put that much more money into it. this is why i posed the my question. and im not trying to jip the insurace company by not telling them. that is not what im attempting either. i was looking for a reason to justify themoney of a supercharger kit if i plan to drop in a v8 at some point that is all thank you all for your advice and legal counsel on the matter. im not being an *** i really appreciate i.