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    Okay my camshaft just came in yesterday (comp 4x4), and i've been searching for parts to replace my valvetrain.

    http://www.3800performance.com/index.html
    they have all the stuff i want, but when i did a search someone posted their install kit will not work for rear wheel gm cars like the camaro, has anyone had problems with them not fitting?

    So far i'm set on purchasing:
    ValveSprings #130
    ValveSpringRetainers *Steel* (titanium is for higher rpm?)
    High-tech Pushrods
    Install kit

    The lifters are quite expensive, if i'm replacing all my other parts should i just buy them, or will i not notice an increase over stock ones?
    1998 Rally Red Camaro
    Manual 5, T-Tops
    Ebony Leather Interior, Kicker Audio System

  • #2
    Or if anyone knows a sponser that has valvetrain upgrades for V6's leeme know, i'd rather support them [img]smile.gif[/img]

    i tried searching on tbyrne but nothing for v6, and i couldn't find ones in the ls1 section that resembled the stats from http://www.3800performance.com/index.html

    and same with thunder racing, lots of options for the ls1 and i don't know which will fit my v6
    1998 Rally Red Camaro
    Manual 5, T-Tops
    Ebony Leather Interior, Kicker Audio System

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    • #3
      LS1 springs and retainers: $15 on ebay...

      hardened pushrods, etc. is all up to you.

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      • #4
        We can get you anything you'll need. LS6 valve springs hold up to .550" lift and are usually available the same day you order. Pushrods: We can get you Comp hardened Chromoly or Manley. We also have all the bolts and gaskets you'll need while doing the swap. Shoot me an e-mail for exact pricing or with any questions you might have.
        <a href=\"http://www.fullthrottlev6.com\" target=\"_blank\">www.fullthrottlev6.com</a> THE SOURCE!

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        • #5
          I have alot of valvetrain parts for sale in the for sale section!!
          Jeff ..
          1998 Firebird.. Built 3.8 with a 125 shot.. 370rwhp,415rwtq.. stock tune!! sold

          2002 WS6 T/A.. Bolt ins..448rwhp
          2009 G8 GT.. Vararam intake, GXP axleback
          1998 Corvette.. Vararam intake, Ti axleback
          http://www.fquick.com/slow-v6

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          • #6
            Originally posted by 98redcamaroV6:
            http://www.3800performance.com/index.html
            they have all the stuff i want, but when i did a search someone posted their install kit will not work for rear wheel gm cars like the camaro, has anyone had problems with them not fitting?
            I hope not...I just ordered one last week. It'll be here any day. The gaskets and stuff should have the part numbers, so I'll let you know if they're the right ones or not.
            Matt
            1998 Mystic Teal Camaro M5
            Whisper Lid, Pacesetter Headers, Catco Cat, Dynomax Super Turbo, B&M Shifter, BMR STB, LSD, P&P Intakes, GT2 Cam, Comp OE Lifters, 1.7 Roller Rockers, Pushrods, SSM Heads, DHP PowrTuner.

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            • #7
              ls6 springs and retainers, and manley hardened pushrods from Matt @ TSP.

              Good prices also!!
              2000 FIREBIRD NBM<br />Thanks to:<br />TSP, ZZP, TCI, Comp Cam, Whisper, GM, Lakewood, TrafficJamz Car Audio,HP Tuner, Alterstart, texas drivetrain and performance, BMR<br /><br />1990 BLUE CAMARO RS<br />1980 z28 <br /><br />venom-vi vice president

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              • #8
                Well you have to get new lifters, unless you have roller lifters.
                how much are you springs and retainers going to cost?
                You might not have to replace your retainers, are your gitting stock replacements?
                What are you doing for valve locks.
                I'm guessing that your springs are 1.25''
                Becare full of valve train kits some of them are a rip off because they know most people don't know how to put together ther own valve train so they offer you a rip off.
                \'85 Z28, T-tops new LG4 and TH700<br />\'85 3.4L 5-speed<br />mods: <a href=\"http://www.cardomain.com/id/oil_pan_4\" target=\"_blank\">http://www.cardomain.com/id/oil_pan_4</a> the nitrous exhaust O2 safety, pg 3. <br />Areo space materal engineer wantabe

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                • #9
                  Does anyone know if LS1 pushrods will fit the 3.8 Series II?
                  2000 Camaro, Pewter Metallic, M5 tranny, 3.23 gears, Hard Top, <br /><br />Modifications:<br />SLP loudmouth (dual/dual tips)<br />MSD 8.5mm wires<br />K&N airfilter<br />SS hood (don\'t buy from fiberglassfabricators.com!!!)<br />Spec stage 2 clutch

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Kevin T.:
                    Does anyone know if LS1 pushrods will fit the 3.8 Series II?
                    yes
                    www.turbov6camaro.com
                    1997 3800 Series II Camaro
                    4600 Stall for my ride to the mall :chug:
                    7.18 @ 99.77 1/8 -1.8x sixty (current quickest v6 fbod)
                    11.23 @ unk 5 1/4 - 7.19 1/8 - 1.83 sixty

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by 98Camaro3.8:
                      </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by 98redcamaroV6:
                      http://www.3800performance.com/index.html
                      they have all the stuff i want, but when i did a search someone posted their install kit will not work for rear wheel gm cars like the camaro, has anyone had problems with them not fitting?
                      I hope not...I just ordered one last week. It'll be here any day. The gaskets and stuff should have the part numbers, so I'll let you know if they're the right ones or not. </font>[/QUOTE]the lower intake will NOT match up (its really really close) not sure about upper intake but im thinking no
                      www.turbov6camaro.com
                      1997 3800 Series II Camaro
                      4600 Stall for my ride to the mall :chug:
                      7.18 @ 99.77 1/8 -1.8x sixty (current quickest v6 fbod)
                      11.23 @ unk 5 1/4 - 7.19 1/8 - 1.83 sixty

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                      • #12
                        the water pump and other gaskets work great and are ALOT better gasket then stock
                        www.turbov6camaro.com
                        1997 3800 Series II Camaro
                        4600 Stall for my ride to the mall :chug:
                        7.18 @ 99.77 1/8 -1.8x sixty (current quickest v6 fbod)
                        11.23 @ unk 5 1/4 - 7.19 1/8 - 1.83 sixty

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                        • #13
                          thanks viper, i wasn't sure if the kit would work or not.

                          And in the For Sale section: N20 Cam, he is also selling springs and retainers;
                          I have 16 2002 LS6 valve springs forsale 50.00..These are 100.00 from intense-racing
                          I have 16 titanium retainers forsale 20.00
                          I have a brand new stock timing chain forsale 25.00

                          If i can get those, then i could afford new lifters from tsp [img]smile.gif[/img] what does 7.40 / 7.35 push rods mean and does the brand matter? i looked at tsp's site and noticed they had several types


                          edit* Oilpan4, i've never seen a valve lock product in the valvetrain section [img]redface.gif[/img] show me, i want to have everything i need, i don't want stock replacements i want upgraded valvetrain.

                          [ July 10, 2004, 03:10 AM: Message edited by: 98redcamaroV6 ]
                          1998 Rally Red Camaro
                          Manual 5, T-Tops
                          Ebony Leather Interior, Kicker Audio System

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                          • #14
                            stock replace ment vauvle lock should be fine it you jack one of those :eek: [img]graemlins/omg.gif[/img]

                            you will need
                            12 - 130# springs
                            12 - TI retainers
                            12 - comp cams OE or OER lifters (OER is 150 RPM more but PITA install)
                            12 - push rods
                            1 waterpump gaket (i have extra one ill sell you 5 bucks plus shipping)or new wter pump only 34 bucks lol
                            1 timing chain cover gasket
                            1 tb gasket
                            1 EGR gasket
                            1 oring on the tensioner
                            1 upper intake gasket
                            1 lower intake gasket
                            12 - new fuel injector seals
                            www.turbov6camaro.com
                            1997 3800 Series II Camaro
                            4600 Stall for my ride to the mall :chug:
                            7.18 @ 99.77 1/8 -1.8x sixty (current quickest v6 fbod)
                            11.23 @ unk 5 1/4 - 7.19 1/8 - 1.83 sixty

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                            • #15
                              I have Ti LS1 1.25'' straight wall spring convert retainers (got them from ebay for $42 shiping and all) for my V6 and they take the same kind of locks.
                              I was going to use the best non-titanium locks I have found and they are Crane forged 7 degree locks for 11/32'' valves. $32 from summitracing.com.
                              You can get +.050'' installed high locks so you can use the full installed hight of the valve springs and run the most lift with you can with your valve springs.
                              I don't know what size valves the 3.8 has, the LS1 has 8mm (all most the same as 5/16'')valves. I bet the 3.8 has eather 8mm or 11/32'' valves.
                              Stock stamped = crap , I wouldn't put them on a lawn mower.
                              You will need new lifters for your cam.
                              \'85 Z28, T-tops new LG4 and TH700<br />\'85 3.4L 5-speed<br />mods: <a href=\"http://www.cardomain.com/id/oil_pan_4\" target=\"_blank\">http://www.cardomain.com/id/oil_pan_4</a> the nitrous exhaust O2 safety, pg 3. <br />Areo space materal engineer wantabe

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