Valvetrain Upgrade

[AZ3.8Camaro]

For that cam, I would get:
-Ls1 or Ls6 springs, stock retainers and keepers.
-Stock replacement pushrods (I would get new ones if you can, just make sure they aren't bent.)
-Stock replacement lifters (just get something low mileage or new.) Not needed at all, but might as well do it while your in there. They are hyd. roller, so they don't need replacement.
-NEW timing chain and tensioner
-Gasket set for RWD 3800... valve cover gaskets, and lower intake gaskets may differ.
-New headbolts (if you pull the heads) and rocker bolts (no matter what).

No need to go pyscho on getting super parts you don't need.
This cam has been run of stock valve train to 6750 rpms without a problem. I would replace the springs for a confort issue, and then check everything else out to make sure you don't have any problems.

[oil pan 4]

So you do have roller lifters, you can reuse them. It is a good idea to inspect them and make sure there not tore up or damaged or any thing.

[OneQuickV6]

They are hydraulic lifters, rplace if badly worn or high mileage. I would not recomend the Comp OE "R" series lifters, as setup is a PITA and you really need an adjustable rocker arm for them.

LS1 pushrods WILL NOT work. Ours are 7.05" length, LS1's are 7.400" stock. They happen to be the same diameter, but that's the only similarity.

Even on the LS1/LS6 valve springs, you can either resue your stock retainers and locks, or use the ones from the LS1.

If you seperate upper and lower intake, there are 2 o-ring seals that MUST be replaced between them. These come in a complete head set, or can be bought seperate. Id' say if you're buying all of the gaskets, but in a set to get everything at once, and cheaper! If you're not going to seperate the water ump from the front cover, why change the gasket? If it's not leaking currently, don't mess with it:)

[98redcamaroV6]

Okay THANKS a bunch for very helpfull information everyone!

When i get off work tonight i'll order the GM Gasket kit:
GM-12520756

GM Stock Replacement Gasket Service Kit - Includes Gaskets for Cylinder Heads, Intake Manifolds, Valve Rocker Covers and Intake Manifold Seal

GM Factory Replacement Throttle Body Gasket
GM-24503432


And from tsp i saw the rest of the items:
28-12559271 GM LS1 Water Pump Gasket Set $7.09

28-12558353 GM EGR Gasket $5.99

28-12558013 GM LS1 Timing Cover Gasket
hey matt does it matter from the valve springs if i order Yellow Stripe LS6 or Green Stripe LS6 .550 lift?

[AZ3.8Camaro]

Don't get the ls1 gaskets... only the valve springs.
LS1 waterpump gasket and timing cover set will not be the same.
Also, you don't have to remove the throttle body either.

Matt is right about the o rings, make sure you put them back on and take note of how they came off.

[98redcamaroV6]

lol thanks bud

[WickEdSix9838]

i'd suggest checking pushrod lengths before you buy them, the stockers ended up being .080 too long for my car when it really should've been around the same length....i ended up buying some Comp 6.950's instead, BTW my stockers measured 7.030

[OneQuickV6]

Don't order those gaskets off our website just yet! Those are all LS1 gaskets and are different than the V6 ones. Call me and I can get you the V6 gaskets.

[AZ3.8Camaro]

Yeah, I would give Matt a call. I haven't dealt with TSP before, but from reading Matt's posts he seems to know his stuff, plus they are a sponsor of the site.
I trust he will take good care of you, after all he has swapped a few cams before too. I will be doing most/all of my v6 purchases from TSP just because of that fact.

[ July 10, 2004, 08:01 PM: Message edited by: AZ3.8Camaro ]

[White95]

Originally posted by viper04af:
stock replace ment vauvle lock should be fine it you jack one of those :eek: [img]graemlins/omg.gif[/img]

you will need
12 - 130# springs
12 - TI retainers
12 - comp cams OE or OER lifters (OER is 150 RPM more but PITA install)
12 - push rods
1 waterpump gaket (i have extra one ill sell you 5 bucks plus shipping)or new wter pump only 34 bucks lol
1 timing chain cover gasket
1 tb gasket
1 EGR gasket
1 oring on the tensioner
1 upper intake gasket
1 lower intake gasket
12 - new fuel injector seals

I assume this list is the same for the 3.4??

[98redcamaroV6]

Originally posted by OneQuickV6:
Don't order those gaskets off our website just yet! Those are all LS1 gaskets and are different than the V6 ones. Call me and I can get you the V6 gaskets.

you have email!