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  • New Grounding Kits???

    Anyone know if these would provide gains on our cars? I'm mainly talking about the new Hyperground System from Sun Automotive. The idea behind it is logical, but I'm wondering if we have enough electrical resistance in our system to actually gain anything from it.

    There's also a new "active" type system called the direct power system. When i say active, it actually uses the car's electrical currents to reduce resistance actively, instead of just grounding everything to the same place, like a "passive" system would do. This system was used on a 350Z w/ a Hyperground kit already on it and saw 2-3 rwhp across the powerband. here's the website: http://www.takakaira.com/asp/template.asp?cat=2&id=1062

    As you can see, they make several different boxes, depending on the application. Does anyone think this will help on our cars?
    2001 Arctic White Firebird<br />More mods than I\'m allowed to list!

  • #2
    In my experience ALL cars gain rwhp with performance grounding kits. Anywhere from 1rwhp to 30 (93-97 rx-7 biatch, ****ty stock grounding lol). Not sure about the direct power whatsits tho.
    00\' firebird v6 5spd<br />201rwhp ---- 230 rwtq<br />\"Everyday I grow stronger...and further from you.\"<br />WARNING: Do not take any of my comments seriously unless they are technical in nature and then only at your own risk

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    • #3
      Why don't you start spending money on mods that will actually help your car instead of new ignition and grounding kits?

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      • #4
        For the same reason me and you don't start being polite and nice, we don't want to...
        00\' firebird v6 5spd<br />201rwhp ---- 230 rwtq<br />\"Everyday I grow stronger...and further from you.\"<br />WARNING: Do not take any of my comments seriously unless they are technical in nature and then only at your own risk

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        • #5
          [img]graemlins/rofl.gif[/img] WTF is this stuff..

          dude.. this is hillarious..

          honestly though.. i wouldent **** with it..

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          • #6
            Grounding is said to help.
            I woun't buy there kit, I would get some wire and connecters and reground stuff like the MAF if you have one, ignition componets, ECU, make sure the injectors are grounded to the ECU real good and stuff like that.
            Those kits arn't going to do the important stuff.
            Make sure your conecters to your ignition and fuel compponets connecters arn't crusty, by unhooking them and looking for crust.
            I would reground some stuff on my car but not with one of there over priced kits.
            \'85 Z28, T-tops new LG4 and TH700<br />\'85 3.4L 5-speed<br />mods: <a href=\"http://www.cardomain.com/id/oil_pan_4\" target=\"_blank\">http://www.cardomain.com/id/oil_pan_4</a> the nitrous exhaust O2 safety, pg 3. <br />Areo space materal engineer wantabe

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            • #7
              I'd trust a kit designed for my car over my own ability, but thats probably just me.
              00\' firebird v6 5spd<br />201rwhp ---- 230 rwtq<br />\"Everyday I grow stronger...and further from you.\"<br />WARNING: Do not take any of my comments seriously unless they are technical in nature and then only at your own risk

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              • #8
                hawgs, because I know what I'm doing and you don't.

                The main things that should have a common ground, from what i can see, is the negative battery teminal, the PCM, the starter, the alternator, and any extra electronics, such as ignition, stereo, lighting, ect. this is for those who wanna try making a home-made grounding kit for their cars.
                2001 Arctic White Firebird<br />More mods than I\'m allowed to list!

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                • #9
                  I wouldnt spend that kind of money on something high tech. Just go and get some thick amp power cable and some ring-terminals. Attach one from a bolt on the valve cover over to the chassis of the car. You're done. You might also notice less radio/ignition interference (ticking noise over radio stations) as well, I did. Hondas have a horrible chassis ground, and gains of about 12 hp can be found just by adding a few grounds in the engine compartment. (heh, just today I was getting out of my girlfriends civic and it shocked me so bad, it about put me on the ground!!) My old Volkswagen was only showing 11 volts of charge from the alternator, I added a ground wire from the alt. body to the negative terminal of the battery and it jumped to 14 volts. My point? It works, just make your own ground kit and save some cash.

                  Brendan
                  2000 Camaro L36 M49
                  84 VW Scirocco 8v
                  I am a man, I can change... if I have to.... I guess.....<br /><br />-Red Green

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                  • #10
                    it's a freekin diode.
                    The bastardification of Third & Fourth gen cars.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Arctc Wolf:
                      hawgs, because I know what I'm doing and you don't.
                      Really... is that a fact? Because from most of your posts I would beg to differ. Do you have any times on your car?

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                      • #12
                        It's a diode he says, hahahahahahaaaaha
                        That's all well and good but when you put a diode in a circut it better be forward biased and it adds some resistance.
                        You could do it so easy, making a few grounds that is.
                        I all ways do every thing my self, I thinks it's like some kind of sickness.
                        \'85 Z28, T-tops new LG4 and TH700<br />\'85 3.4L 5-speed<br />mods: <a href=\"http://www.cardomain.com/id/oil_pan_4\" target=\"_blank\">http://www.cardomain.com/id/oil_pan_4</a> the nitrous exhaust O2 safety, pg 3. <br />Areo space materal engineer wantabe

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by ReodDai:
                          For the same reason me and you don't start being polite and nice, we don't want to...
                          he does have a point.
                          New:04 GMC Sierra 1500 RCLB 4x4 5.3 GU80 3.73\'s.<br />Truck pics<br />Mods<br />Go fast: Panel K&N filter and soon SS truck catback.<br />Appearance: Stull Billet grill,Weston Chrome step tubes,Rhino Chrome hitch step,ARE painted fiberglass cover,Silver star lighting.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by 3.4 [deployed]:
                            it's a freekin diode.
                            Honestly I just skimmed it didn't look much into it but it just talks about stopping the reverse flow of eclectricity. Which to me sounds like a diode.

                            Although electricity flows from plus (+) to minus (-) fundamentally, the electrical current goes contrary to the electrical flow when a car is equipped with electronic auto parts. This is called reversed electrical current. A car battery supplies electricity to the alternator, and the engine drives the alternator to re-generate electricity while electricity is supplied. The electricity generated at this time tends to flow back to the car battery. This returning electricity is called reversed current, and will interfere with the current supplied from the car battery which will result in a loss of electrical current. The equipment which reduces this electrical interference then pulls out original power and uses the amount of electrical power which is existing now that there is no loss possible. Then this power performance is brought close to 100%. It is the ignition frequency generated from the engine, and whose undamped natural frequency which this product uses with great effect, an is made to circulate through electricity efficiently. This is the Direct Power System.

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                            • #15
                              So anyone think running a bigass diode woudl be beneficial?

                              hmm... wonder what the spare ones we have at work are rated...

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