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  • 3.8 poeple with or without MSD heres new problem, I NEED HELP

    ok

    last night installed MSD DIS-4, use the Coil interface mods, ok install is done start car up and the loop runs fine, shut it off start it up runs REALLY freaking great, nice smoothie revs and the idle was SOOOO MUCH SMOTHIER (PS i know most 3.8 don't need this but my car it helped cuase of my 57# hour injectors and big *** cam) so i was happy it help

    i shut car off and go to bed, wake up do some things and umm car not starting, put buy pass plug in same thing, put MSD back on and it starts but with a really bad miss

    ok so i check plugs (3 plugs), there kinda black (only 100 miles on them) so i replace one and clean the other two. still same,

    so when it got dark i go out and look the bay is full of ****ing arch from the NEW WIRES, and i dont mean to the block or headers, to painted place and sh!t.

    ok
    PLugs not fireing so it has to go somewere??

    umm im know im rich and the plugs don't seem to heating the there cleaning temp, hell the motor rarly goes above 180-190 so should i get a plug 1 step hotter then stock till i get the turbo on the car? how should i gap them ?


    thanks
    Andrew
    www.turbov6camaro.com
    1997 3800 Series II Camaro
    4600 Stall for my ride to the mall :chug:
    7.18 @ 99.77 1/8 -1.8x sixty (current quickest v6 fbod)
    11.23 @ unk 5 1/4 - 7.19 1/8 - 1.83 sixty

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    check all the wires. My car turned over, but didn't start when I grounded the two-step wire. u either have to have it connected, or keep it from touching metal. check all connections and make sure they're solid.

    running that big of injectors w/o tuning will cause them to cake up w/ carbon quickly. are they the stock heat range, or are they colder? i know of NO2 ppl who use 1 heat range colder plugs w/ no problem.
    2001 Arctic White Firebird<br />More mods than I\'m allowed to list!

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Arctc Wolf:
      check all the wires. My car turned over, but didn't start when I grounded the two-step wire. u either have to have it connected, or keep it from touching metal. check all connections and make sure they're solid.

      running that big of injectors w/o tuning will cause them to cake up w/ carbon quickly. are they the stock heat range, or are they colder? i know of NO2 ppl who use 1 heat range colder plugs w/ no problem.
      PCM is tuned for them, but theres no turbo so its running a little rich.

      stock heat range plugs, i think im going to go one high so the plug self cleans faster. ]

      also when installing the msd what coil pack is channle 1 2 and 3

      i have is as the back one channle one, middle to and the one in the front of the car channle 3
      www.turbov6camaro.com
      1997 3800 Series II Camaro
      4600 Stall for my ride to the mall :chug:
      7.18 @ 99.77 1/8 -1.8x sixty (current quickest v6 fbod)
      11.23 @ unk 5 1/4 - 7.19 1/8 - 1.83 sixty

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      • #4
        hey i got my cuz's scan tool, if i shut of the #2 or #5 injectors the car runs the same, any other number and it runs wores. the codes only said misfire detected thats. it
        www.turbov6camaro.com
        1997 3800 Series II Camaro
        4600 Stall for my ride to the mall :chug:
        7.18 @ 99.77 1/8 -1.8x sixty (current quickest v6 fbod)
        11.23 @ unk 5 1/4 - 7.19 1/8 - 1.83 sixty

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        • #5
          you probably have a couple bad plugs/wires... at least that's what it sounds like to my limited expertise.

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          • #6
            found it

            i move the CIU around an it moved with it, it was the trigger wire, it got boke when i was putting the wire loom over them it was only runing on 4 pistons lol.

            now it still has a miss but i know thats my plugs, it HAD BETTER NOT BE my wires
            www.turbov6camaro.com
            1997 3800 Series II Camaro
            4600 Stall for my ride to the mall :chug:
            7.18 @ 99.77 1/8 -1.8x sixty (current quickest v6 fbod)
            11.23 @ unk 5 1/4 - 7.19 1/8 - 1.83 sixty

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