stock crank ?

[ReodDai]

Well that does prove the stock crank can handle some fun. But its not a L36, its a L67 with internal work done ;) If you try to tell me new rockers isn't considered internal I will hunt you down and thwap you between the eyes.

[CrEaTiVe PuNkA]

i look at internal work as- having to crack open any gaskets or sealant. but i surpose your right.
I was really surprised you guys in the states havnt got heaps of cars around this hp area.

[ReodDai]

This ain't a GTP board.

[Timbo1969]

Originally posted by ReodDai:
Well that does prove the stock crank can handle some fun. But its not a L36, its a L67 with internal work done ;) If you try to tell me new rockers isn't considered internal I will hunt you down and thwap you between the eyes.

The L36 and L67 have the exact same crank!!

[Turbo V6 Camaro]

Originally posted by CrEaTiVe PuNkA:
its mods are-42.5lb/hr Injectors, T-Rex fuel Pump, 550 x 300 x 75mm Front Mount Intercooler, 1.9:1 High ratio Roller Rockers. stock cam/not opened.

"This engine has not had an easy life"
- it started off factory supercharged m90 with anywhere from 6psi tp 14psi, then migrated to Vortech supercharged intercooled at 17psi, now turbo from 14 to 20psi boost
- it's done over 250 full dyno passes, to the point where the turbo manifolds have been glowing red hot enough to see through the pipes !!
- over 115 1/4mile passes
- it's been pinged, backfired, run lean, fouled plugs ... etc
- is daily driven and - given street work-outs
the good things are
- Always run on 98+RON BP Ultimate Premium
- Always run Castrol R Synthetic 10W/60 High Grade oil ($70 5L)
- Always careful about heavy gear downshifts (we don't downshift from 3rd to 1st, to try and nail someone)
Although it's hard a hard life, we know what are the wrong ways to treat an engine and gearbox, and this is what has kept it alive.
The engine has now done 116,000klms and it's celan as a whistle.
- doesn't burn or use any oil
- doesn't foul the water, still fluro green
- doesn't tick or rumble
- no signs of power loss
In essence what we are trying to imply, is we don't know how much longer it will last, but it hasn't shown any signs of fatigue, and doesn't look to be stopping anytime soon.
We usually run between 10 psi to 14psi on the street, as the extra is too much and wasted in wheelspin. If we kept going like this we feel we would never see the engine snap.
The engine will be broken at some time in the future, in the name of science, when we try 22psi to 25psi ... or who knows, if it stays together, we might have to try even harder !!

wrong

In December 2003, we put this car on the dyno for the first time ever and shattered the all time 3800 Series II dyno record with a 655 horsepower pull! Two weeks later we did it again with a 670 horsepower pull! Read about it here...

Much chassis work was done and a larger turbo was installed for the 2004 racing season debut. The first outing netted an amazing 10.381 @ 136.58 MPH (1.655 60'). The video can be seen here. The car was built (and is NHRA/IHRA legal) to run as fast as 9.00. Here's the basic list of modifications:'

Engine

85 mm. Escalade MAF sensor
Precision Turbo PT70GTQ compressor
Precision Turbo custom intercooler
ZZP-modified LS1 throttle body
Wilson Manifolds-modified L67 lower intake/plenum
Weldon 2015 fuel pump
PRJ custom fuel logs
Siemens 60.0 pound/hour fuel injectors
INTENSE™ Stage 3 cylinder heads
INTENSE™ MLS .054" head gaskets
INTENSE™ 8.0:1 race short block
INTENSE™ SFI-approved damper
INTENSE™ double roller timing chain setup
INTENSE™ Stage 3 turbo cam
CompCams 'OE R Series' lifters
INTENSE™ lightweight pushrods
INTENSE™ 1.60:1 full roller rocker arms
B & R Racing custom headers with ceramic coating by Toefco (1 5/8" primaries, 2 1/8" secondaries, 2 3/4" y-pipe, 3" downpipe)
Accel custom 9 mm. spark plug wires
Autolite AR103 Race spark plugs @ .035" gap
ZZP Oversized W-body radiator


Transaxle

INTENSE™ transaxle with 3.29:1 final drive ratio
INTENSE™ TCC-400 torque converter


Electronics

Custom PCM
Tech Edge Mini-AFC v1.0


Chassis

B & R Racing custom 4130 roll cage
B & R Racing custom 4130 front control arms
B & R Racing custom 4130 tie rod ends
B & R Racing custom front and rear coilover suspension
B & R Racing custom 4130 wheelie bars
B & R Racing custom solid motor mounts
Percy's Speedglass polycarbonate front, rear and side windows
INTENSE™ Race Front Brake Kit
Monte Carlo aluminum engine cradle

[Turbo V6 Camaro]

Originally posted by CrEaTiVe PuNkA:
i look at internal work as- having to crack open any gaskets or sealant. but i surpose your right.
I was really surprised you guys in the states havnt got heaps of cars around this hp area.

to get rockets out you have a vavle cover gasket in the way

[Turbo V6 Camaro]

Originally posted by ReodDai:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by viper04af:
i guees what im trying to say is 20 PSI would not be smart on the stock motor, Tiago maxed out rads car on only 15 PSI, 5 more pounds boost is ALOT MORE even with the fuel upgrades you would need like 130 octane gas IMO

The gas would prevent the engine from exploding (maybe) but it wouldn't prevent something cracking in half lol. </font>[/QUOTE]well you would need high ocatne or the KR would be so bad you would blow the thing apart before you could even see if the crank holds up

[Turbo V6 Camaro]

Originally posted by ReodDai:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by viper04af:
i guees what im trying to say is 20 PSI would not be smart on the stock motor, Tiago maxed out rads car on only 15 PSI, 5 more pounds boost is ALOT MORE even with the fuel upgrades you would need like 130 octane gas IMO

The gas would prevent the engine from exploding (maybe) but it wouldn't prevent something cracking in half lol. </font>[/QUOTE]well you would need high ocatne or the KR would be so bad you would blow the thing apart before you could even see if the crank holds up

[ReodDai]

Originally posted by Timbo1969:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by ReodDai:
Well that does prove the stock crank can handle some fun. But its not a L36, its a L67 with internal work done ;) If you try to tell me new rockers isn't considered internal I will hunt you down and thwap you between the eyes.

The L36 and L67 have the exact same crank!! </font>[/QUOTE]Timbo pay attention. I already acknowledged that. Thus the "Well that does prove the stock crank can handle some fun" remark. My point was he claimed that a stock internal 3.8 pulled 500+hp at 20psi. I called bull****. There are three seperate discussions present in this thread. Please keep up with them or do not comment.

[ReodDai]

Originally posted by viper04af:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by ReodDai:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by viper04af:
i guees what im trying to say is 20 PSI would not be smart on the stock motor, Tiago maxed out rads car on only 15 PSI, 5 more pounds boost is ALOT MORE even with the fuel upgrades you would need like 130 octane gas IMO

The gas would prevent the engine from exploding (maybe) but it wouldn't prevent something cracking in half lol. </font>[/QUOTE]well you would need high ocatne or the KR would be so bad you would blow the thing apart before you could even see if the crank holds up </font>[/QUOTE]Enjoy rewording exactly what I say, bro? ;)

[Turbo V6 Camaro]

Originally posted by ReodDai:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by viper04af:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by ReodDai:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by viper04af:
i guees what im trying to say is 20 PSI would not be smart on the stock motor, Tiago maxed out rads car on only 15 PSI, 5 more pounds boost is ALOT MORE even with the fuel upgrades you would need like 130 octane gas IMO

The gas would prevent the engine from exploding (maybe) but it wouldn't prevent something cracking in half lol. </font>[/QUOTE]well you would need high ocatne or the KR would be so bad you would blow the thing apart before you could even see if the crank holds up </font>[/QUOTE]Enjoy rewording exactly what I say, bro? ;) </font>[/QUOTE]oh i did it was fun, i didn't get what you sida the first read i guess [img]tongue.gif[/img] [img]tongue.gif[/img]

[Turbo V6 Camaro]

Originally posted by ReodDai:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Timbo1969:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by ReodDai:
Well that does prove the stock crank can handle some fun. But its not a L36, its a L67 with internal work done ;) If you try to tell me new rockers isn't considered internal I will hunt you down and thwap you between the eyes.

The L36 and L67 have the exact same crank!! </font>[/QUOTE]Timbo pay attention. I already acknowledged that. Thus the "Well that does prove the stock crank can handle some fun" remark. My point was he claimed that a stock internal 3.8 pulled 500+hp at 20psi. I called bull****. There are three seperate discussions present in this thread. Please keep up with them or do not comment. </font>[/QUOTE]i called it first. you back me up, eather way how did GTP get in here? lol

[Turbo V6 Camaro]

reo were you from???

when i get back to the states lets buy a 3.8 put my turbo kit on it, and full boost it with a brick on the gas and a video cam that would be fun [img]smile.gif[/img] just to see how long it lasts

[ReodDai]

Texas, and I'm a poor college student if I was within reach of your turbo kit it would be strapped to my car within 24hrs ;) not used to grenade a poor unsuspecting fbody lol.

[CrEaTiVe PuNkA]

"wrong"[QUOTE]
This was not in an american car. This was in an australian vt holden commodore, which is similar to your cadilac's i think. they come in v6, supercharged v6 and ls1.

what crank does the intence' car run? its not the stocko one is it?

[ July 28, 2004, 07:00 AM: Message edited by: CrEaTiVe PuNkA ]