Heads,Cam,Intake question

[CAM01ARO]

Sure, at 38K miles its just broken in good.
Heads
Stage 2: $975 plus refundable $120 core
Stage 3: $1300 plus refundable $120 core
Ported upper and lower intake set: $550 plus $100 refundable core
Cam: $425

We offer these as PowerPaks to include the heads, intakes, and cam:
Stage 2: $1900 plus refundable $200 core
Stage 3: 2200 plus refundable $200 core

We also have forged pistons for the GM3800 series 2 L36 for $675 which includes rings, pins, and lox at 9.4:1 compression ratio.

worth it?
i asked about a group purchase if anyone else is interested,

i was thinkin about the powerpak either 2 or 3 depends on cash flow, but is it worth it and do i need to do any other mods for these?

i have a 2001 3.8 V6 38k miles

how much power do you think itl make?

[AZ3.8Camaro]

$425 for a cam is buttrape by any means.

Porting intake manifolds is really easy to do.

Heads are harder, and probably worth the money.
I would just get the heads, then port match the lower intake to it, then match the upper intake to the lower. By a cam from comp cams for about $300 and pop it in. :D

[cboney2003]

http://www.abbottracingheads.com/gm3800.html

Ported Upper / Lower Manifolds: $300

Ported Cylinder Heads, Stainless Valves, Flow Benching: $1500

Custom Ground Camshaft: $300 (the price it should be)

Plus the have lifters, pushrods, gaskets sets, and everything else you will likely need. You won't need forged pistons for a naturally aspirated motor with no nitrous.

[98Camaro3.8]

SSM does great work, but don't get the whole powerpak. Just get the heads and go elsewhere for other parts.

[CAM01ARO]

anyone intrested in a group purchase he said if we get 6+ well get the stage 3 for the price of stage 2

[ezrollin]

if i had the $$

[CAM01ARO]

anyone intrested its a killer deal

[blacksport]

I havent seen any cars with results to back up SSM parts yet.


I'd go with Abbott if I were you.


www.abbottracingheads.com

[98Camaro3.8]

Originally posted by blacksport:
I havent seen any cars with results to back up SSM parts yet.

I'd go with Abbott if I were you.

I don't agree with that at all. Abbott is great, but don't go saying SSM is no good because the few people that have used their stuff haven't gotten amazing track times.

I ran a stock suspension to a 14.5 @ 96 untuned with the clutch spinning for a 2.2 60' at a 2100' density altitude on stock 3.23s. That's pretty damn impressive to me.

For that matter, your time isn't that amazing either, but I'm not gonna blame Abbott.

[ezrollin]

14.5 is impressive for a 98 3.8 w/ 3.23 (unstock tho)

SSM has gotten good times. maybe not their customers ....

[ November 07, 2005, 06:03 AM: Message edited by: ezrollin ]

[AZ3.8Camaro]

Originally posted by ezrollin:
stock suspension dont matter cause your 3.23s (no trac probs)

Apparently you lack experience in the subject.

[AZ3.8Camaro]

Originally posted by blacksport:
I havent seen any cars with results to back up SSM parts yet.


I'd go with Abbott if I were you.


www.abbottracingheads.com

Magnus ran the times.
Its only a matter of the right person, with the right car buying them.
I have not seen any proof that either company does better work.

[South Tampa V6]

I'll let you know when I get all done.

I got the SSM heads and manifolds and a pretty big cam, working on the tune now(HPTuner & WBO2). Cam not from SSM, btw.

I know for a fact I need a stall and that's going to limit the ET improvements.

Won't matter for the dyno though. Will get that towards the end of the month.

[NOS2006]

Originally posted by AZ3.8Camaro:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by ezrollin:
stock suspension dont matter cause your 3.23s (no trac probs)

Apparently you lack experience in the subject. </font>[/QUOTE]Exactly. I can spin 'em with 3.08s in the cold.

[FuryCharger]

In regards to the cam head intake question....i posted nearly half a year ago regarding a research project im doing on head work in comparison with all the aftermarket porters that work our heads. I am nearing completion as I have not had a lot of time to work on it. I will post it as soon as i finish it.....It addresses flow comparison, efficiency, valve size and velocity. Also I have built in a bit of cam application as well. It will be a useful tool. Any questions let me know