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**Magnus** · 10-28-2002, 10:38 AM

Ok, first.. I made your topic title a little more descriptive. There are many knowledgable people in here who can give equally good advice as I.

Ok.. so you want a reliable NA daily driver cam.

First, with any internal work you do.. there is ALWAYS a risk.. Something could go wrong and your car could be down for a while.. You could even junk the motor. It's possible.

If you only rev to 6000, then you should be fine with stock valvesprings.

I think a 212/212 112LS .520/.520 should work well... With .520 lift you will be setting the reatiners just on top of the valve seals but it shouldn't be bad enough were they get crushed.

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**JAM** · 10-28-2002, 10:42 AM

Thanks, for the info sorry if I messed up some posts. Are we cool? [img]graemlins/burnout.gif[/img]

**Magnus** · 10-28-2002, 10:43 AM

We're cool. I'm just doing my job with advanced tech.. that is all. As long as you don't attack people and start troubke, I have no beef with you. [img]smile.gif[/img]

Just doin my job.

**JAM** · 10-28-2002, 10:45 AM

Cool! I just try to be as helpfull as possible with everyone. ;)

**JAM** · 10-28-2002, 10:48 AM

Now back to the cam...

Which companies/brands make those types of durations and lifts?

Anyone have sugestions of cams that work well in a daily driver without killing anything in the motor, while gaining some HP 10+ ponnies out of it?

:D

**Magnus** · 10-28-2002, 10:50 AM

COMP Cams.

http://www.compcams.com/catalog/230.html

Thats the page you can pick your lobes from.

No matter what cam you do there is always a risk of damageing bearings. Higher lift cams .600+ risk kissing pistons with valves.

**JAM** · 10-28-2002, 10:54 AM

Any advise on how to minimize that risk?

**Magnus** · 10-28-2002, 10:57 AM

well... you can put in stronger valve springs that hopefully won't break.. stronger pushrods that hopefully won't bend.

It's a risk. Just like many other engine mods you do... Trans and Engine work are the most risky. Intake/Exhaust is all pretty safe.

**JAM** · 10-28-2002, 10:59 AM

So would anyone recomend getting new stronger springs, rockers, pushrods, etc with this sugested set up?

**Magnus** · 10-28-2002, 11:05 AM

I run my current cam most of the time with no MAF T+.. it just helps you get the MOST out of any combo really.. stock cam or not.

You can't get a comp cam with that low of lift.. you can get one at .506 lift I believe.. those are nice.. VERY fast ramps though.

I HIGHLY STRONGLY recomend against a regrind. If you are goign through all the work of a cam swap, put in a COMP ground from a core.. Even if you have to wait for Comp to get cores, you WILL make much more power at the same durations AND the car will idle and run much smoother.

**OneQuickV6** · 10-28-2002, 11:31 AM

As per your question of how can you avoid smacking the piston and valves together with higher lifts...They make a tool that you can cut a recess in the piston with...basically, you have the ehad in place, the tool insetrted in one valve's place, and a drill to spin it to make the cut....we did it to a friend's WS6 this weekend to make a little room, not too hard, but might have to havr the engine out to get any room to work.

**JAM** · 10-28-2002, 11:47 AM

How much HP could I expect to gain out of this set up?

**scottblack** · 10-28-2002, 01:33 PM

I'll throw in my $0.02 here...

Min runs the Comp Cams XE 206/212 Cam with no SES lights whatsoever. He also has locally ported heads, headers, and no maft+ i believe, could be wrong. He put down 350RWHP/400RWTQ on a 150 NX shot. The #s aren't OVERLY impressive but they do perform very well. NA i dont remember what he put down but it was a pretty stout number for no tuning and no SES lights. He drives it every day as well and has no issues whatsoever in it, in an automatic.

I personally would run a 212/218 .520/.528 112 LSA for a daily car, and tune it with the MAFT+, or have DHP tune your PCM. Talk to Zoomer about that.

Scott

**pgriffith** · 10-28-2002, 06:33 PM

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Scott Black:
I'll throw in my $0.02 here...

Min runs the Comp Cams XE 206/212 Cam with no SES lights whatsoever. He also has locally ported heads, headers, and no maft+ i believe, could be wrong. He put down 350RWHP/400RWTQ on a 150 NX shot. The #s aren't OVERLY impressive but they do perform very well. NA i dont remember what he put down but it was a pretty stout number for no tuning and no SES lights. He drives it every day as well and has no issues whatsoever in it, in an automatic.

I personally would run a 212/218 .520/.528 112 LSA for a daily car, and tune it with the MAFT+, or have DHP tune your PCM. Talk to Zoomer about that.

Scott<hr></blockquote>

SO thats about 200RWHP, thats same as my car with a whimpie crower cam. Im not really impressed.

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