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    and there she goes...BAD NEWS...

    So last monday I overreved the bird hit about 6800 on the rpms...and thought that i bent a pushrod. well today i took it to the mechanic, after me trying to do it and figuring out it was too much for me to handle, got it to the mechanic and i crank her up...dude says yah that's some nasty piston slap. FAWK! So the guy says that it'd just be cheaper to replace the whole daymn engine......not what i wanted to hear. so now i have to decided whether or not the car is worht putting another $2000+ to get a new motor put in.

    I've been toying with the idea of putting a LT1 in it. But haven't called enough places to figure out how much that is going to cost. I guess we'll figure it out sometime. If i decide not to put the engine in i'm just going to part the car out for all it's worth and sell the body. what a wonderful christmas...santa didn't take one look at my list, and now this...

    suggestions? comments? thanks.
    1995 Firebird 3.4 V6 M5<br />-Firehawk 17x9 w/275/40/ZR17, flowmaster 80s, high-flow cat<br />*new* BMR lowering springs, Bilstein shocks, WS.6 sway bars, polyurethane bushings.
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    don't you have a rev limiter?

    if you do put a motor in put a junkyard one in, or do lt1 imo...
    -Eric<br /><a href=\"http://www.cardomain.com/id/mustangeater82\" target=\"_blank\">2000 NBM V6 Camaro 5-speed</a> T-top <i>converted</i><br /><b>14.467@95.45mph</b> <i>$0 in mods</i><br /><i>The member formerly known as MustangEater8251</i>

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    • #3
      Originally posted by tbird31:
      $2000+ to get a new motor put in.
      That seems kind of high. With a junkyard motor and install, it shouldn't cost much over $1000.


      Yes you could put an LT1 in it, and it wouldn't cost a whole lot more than replacing what's in it now. That kindo of stuff has been discussed here before, so be sure to search for some info on what needs to be done.


      Originally posted by shenanigans:
      don't you have a rev limiter?
      Doesn't help if you shift into 1st instead of 3rd, or some other weird downshift. ;)
      Matt
      1998 Mystic Teal Camaro M5
      Whisper Lid, Pacesetter Headers, Catco Cat, Dynomax Super Turbo, B&M Shifter, BMR STB, LSD, P&P Intakes, GT2 Cam, Comp OE Lifters, 1.7 Roller Rockers, Pushrods, SSM Heads, DHP PowrTuner.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by shenanigans:
        don't you have a rev limiter?

        if you do put a motor in put a junkyard one in, or do lt1 imo...
        Kind of weird but, I dont think my car has a rev limiter either? I always assumed it did, and then one day I drove my friends 2000 Camaro and it would cut off the gas at like 5800 RPMS or something so I kept screwing up the shifts. Is that a newer feature or something?
        -Kevin<br /><a href=\"http://heinz.no-ip.com/Car%20Pics/IM000117.JPG\" target=\"_blank\"><b>\'96 White Camaro RS M5</b></a> <br />GTP Shortblock - T3/T4 -6psi Intercooled<br />Open Downpipe

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        • #5
          Originally posted by asdf1234:
          </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by shenanigans:
          don't you have a rev limiter?

          if you do put a motor in put a junkyard one in, or do lt1 imo...
          Kind of weird but, I dont think my car has a rev limiter either? I always assumed it did, and then one day I drove my friends 2000 Camaro and it would cut off the gas at like 5800 RPMS or something so I kept screwing up the shifts. Is that a newer feature or something? </font>[/QUOTE]Stock rev limiter for the cable-driven TBs should be 5950 RPM. I have heard of some of the electronic TB cars having it set lower at 5800 for some reason.
          Matt
          1998 Mystic Teal Camaro M5
          Whisper Lid, Pacesetter Headers, Catco Cat, Dynomax Super Turbo, B&M Shifter, BMR STB, LSD, P&P Intakes, GT2 Cam, Comp OE Lifters, 1.7 Roller Rockers, Pushrods, SSM Heads, DHP PowrTuner.

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          • #6
            Mine cuts off at 5950 RPM, Missed the shift couple times and it always does it, something like Speed limiter.

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            • #7
              You can get an LT1 swap done for about 2.5k total.
              [ full bolt on\'s and blown.]<br />[formerly known as naptown]<br />[just know that im teh man ]

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              • #8
                where are you guys getting these prices from...i've talked to like 3 shops now and the want 4k alone to do the dang V6 swap!
                1995 Firebird 3.4 V6 M5<br />-Firehawk 17x9 w/275/40/ZR17, flowmaster 80s, high-flow cat<br />*new* BMR lowering springs, Bilstein shocks, WS.6 sway bars, polyurethane bushings.

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                • #9
                  It doesnt take much mechanical know-how to pull a motor out and put a motor in...
                  [ full bolt on\'s and blown.]<br />[formerly known as naptown]<br />[just know that im teh man ]

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                  • #10
                    I got a 3.8 junkyard motor for $650
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                    • #11
                      dude 3.8 or lt1

                      Drop an l67 block in there [img]smile.gif[/img] + nitrous
                      Mystic Teal Metallic
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                      • #12
                        You can get a complete engine from some salvages or the boards for like $500 max.


                        Overreved 6800? ha, I shift at 6500.
                        2001 V6 Camaro - VTEC Badged, Abbott Racing Heads Sticker, and Loud A$$ Exhaust<br /><br /><b>BUILT NOT BOUGHT</b><br /><br />14.0 @ 96.44 MPH (Street Tires, Before Tranny)<br /><br /> <a href=\"http://members.cardomain.com/6pakcamaro54\" target=\"_blank\">http://members.cardomain.com/6pakcamaro54</a>

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                        • #13
                          also remenber with a motor swap you will have to swap the tranny too. even if you swap to the 3.8L. that's where some of the high cost is comming in when you get quotes.
                          95 Firebird<br /> <a href=\"http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/673250\" target=\"_blank\">http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/673250</a> <br /> <a href=\"http://photobucket.com/albums/y217/andrewbrandon19/\" target=\"_blank\">http://photobucket.com/albums/y217/andrewbrandon19/</a> <br /><br />me on a good day------&gt; <a href=\"http://communicatio.webblogg.se/images/wet_cat_113159625.jpg\" target=\"_blank\">linky</a>

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                          • #14
                            Yah I'm not gonna do the motor swap, I think I'm getting a used 3.4 from F-Body Motorsports in the Charlotte area for about $1500 installed and out the door. Hopefully that'll be enough till I sell it and get an LT1 this summer...then I don't give a fawk what happens to it. I just don't have the money or can risk not having a car for now...I need transportation.
                            1995 Firebird 3.4 V6 M5<br />-Firehawk 17x9 w/275/40/ZR17, flowmaster 80s, high-flow cat<br />*new* BMR lowering springs, Bilstein shocks, WS.6 sway bars, polyurethane bushings.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by asdf1234:
                              </font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by shenanigans:
                              don't you have a rev limiter?

                              if you do put a motor in put a junkyard one in, or do lt1 imo...
                              Kind of weird but, I dont think my car has a rev limiter either? I always assumed it did, and then one day I drove my friends 2000 Camaro and it would cut off the gas at like 5800 RPMS or something so I kept screwing up the shifts. Is that a newer feature or something? </font>[/QUOTE]You have a friend with a 2k 3.8L?


                              tell him I'll do whatever he wants hptuners wise for $20... (not going into a hardcore tune, but simple ****)
                              -Eric<br /><a href=\"http://www.cardomain.com/id/mustangeater82\" target=\"_blank\">2000 NBM V6 Camaro 5-speed</a> T-top <i>converted</i><br /><b>14.467@95.45mph</b> <i>$0 in mods</i><br /><i>The member formerly known as MustangEater8251</i>

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