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<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Ian:
also reccomend a custom PCM.
add like $2,000 right there for the pcm with tuning, something like a DFI system.<hr></blockquote>
$2k??!! DHP reprograms PCMs for the 3800 for 300 bucks.
Check out their website.
[ October 22, 2003: Message edited by: GPFish ]</p>1999 Grand Prix GT<br /><br /><a href=\"http://www.fishsgt.com\" target=\"_blank\">www.fishsgt.com</a><br /><br />Best ET: 14.94@91.25MPH with a 2.2 60\"
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<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Ian:
also reccomend a custom PCM.
add like $2,000 right there for the pcm with tuning, something like a DFI system.<hr></blockquote>Must not have researched PCM tuning very much..
[img]graemlins/rofl.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/rofl.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/rofl.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/rofl.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/rofl.gif[/img]2000 Firebird. Whisper Lid, True duals, TSP mail order tune, Built Tranny , TCI 2800 stall verter, B&M tranny cooler, Eaton LSD, 3.42 gears. Current best ET. 15.232 89.09 MPH 2.175 60ft on stock 3.42\'s and open diff.<a href=\"http://www.geocities.c
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here is a dyno of his gf's car he posted on clubgp
http://www.zzpftp.com/vs238dyno.jpg
thats 238whp
thats with problems above 6K rpms, hes not sure what yet but thinks after he works it all out 250whp should be no problem
his m90 supercharged l67 dynoed like 410 whp its a nice graph
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<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by GPFish:
$2k??!! DHP reprograms PCMs for the 3800 for 300 bucks.
Check out their website.
[ October 22, 2003: Message edited by: GPFish ]<hr></blockquote>
He's not lying, they do. Thats where I am getting mine done.1997 Chevrolet Camaro v6 - 13.8@104MPH
1997 Dodge Viper GTS
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<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by camarozrule:
Front wheel drive is for pussy's . "Real men" drive RWD. [img]graemlins/rofl.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/burnout.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/dunce.gif[/img]
is this short block gonna be available for our f-body's.<hr></blockquote>
yes real men i guess you could say do drive rwd but as stated above they were talking about a girl.
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yes, it will work in a Maro. The GPs and Maros both use the same L36 shortblock.
As you can see from the dyno, the power is climbing fast but then the car had some serious issues. I think it's related to valve float. The GPs always dyno about 5% lower than the Maro's so it would be interesting to see someone with an Fbody go for 300WHP with one of these bottom ends and a large cam.
[ November 03, 2003: Message edited by: Zooomer ]</p>
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Hey Zooomer,
When will this block be an orderable item, can you give a definite timeframe?2000 Firebird. Whisper Lid, True duals, TSP mail order tune, Built Tranny , TCI 2800 stall verter, B&M tranny cooler, Eaton LSD, 3.42 gears. Current best ET. 15.232 89.09 MPH 2.175 60ft on stock 3.42\'s and open diff.<a href=\"http://www.geocities.c
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<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Timbo1969:
Must not have researched PCM tuning very much..
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Sounds like you haven't researched custom tuning very much. For the best gains and tuning, you need an aftermarket ECU with a wideband o2. A stock PCM doesn't have the parameters necessary to take advantage of the airflow and increased combustion. Now who's [img]graemlins/rofl.gif[/img] tool. Reprogrammed via mail order PCM's = teh ghey.<a href=\"http://www.fullthrottlev6.com\" target=\"_blank\">www.fullthrottlev6.com</a><br /><a href=\"http://www.chitownracing.com\" target=\"_blank\">www.chitownracing.com</a>
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<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by pgriffith:
yes real men i guess you could say do drive rwd but as stated above they were talking about a girl.<hr></blockquote>
RWD = Real Women Drive then, I guess.Tom<br />Too many mods for this sig.<br /><a href=\"http://www.l337server.com/Tom/cars.html\" target=\"_blank\">My car\'s site</a><br /><br /><a href=\"http://www.FullThrottleV6.com\" target=\"_blank\">www.FullThrottleV6.com</a>
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<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Bird_Of_Prey:
Sounds like you haven't researched custom tuning very much. For the best gains and tuning, you need an aftermarket ECU with a wideband o2. A stock PCM doesn't have the parameters necessary to take advantage of the airflow and increased combustion. Now who's [img]graemlins/rofl.gif[/img] tool. Reprogrammed via mail order PCM's = teh ghey.<hr></blockquote> This didn't concern you. I was responding to a comment of $2000 being spent for PCM tuning. If you would like to tell me something I don't know then maybe you would care to start now? I beg to differ on the reprogramming that DHP does. As the intense turbo car is using a DHP reprogrammed PCM to run 10's. Now take your little
[img]graemlins/rofl.gif[/img] And stick it up your rectum2000 Firebird. Whisper Lid, True duals, TSP mail order tune, Built Tranny , TCI 2800 stall verter, B&M tranny cooler, Eaton LSD, 3.42 gears. Current best ET. 15.232 89.09 MPH 2.175 60ft on stock 3.42\'s and open diff.<a href=\"http://www.geocities.c
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