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    do i need it and if not, how do i get rid of it. what can i expect from removing it?
    96 3.8 red camaro. <br />headers,cam,valve springs,retainers,auburn lsd,3.73 gears,SLP cold air,accel coils,24lb injectors,8mm plug wires,air temp module,LT1 diveshaft,removed a/c,edelbrock torque arm,spohn LCA\'s and PHR

  • #2
    Re: balance shaft

    lance said you dont need it. I want to just remove the chain for now.
    I guess you would see a .1 increase in the 1/4 mile, as it weights 10lbs of moving weight, thats powertrain drag.
    2k2 camaro, K&N, SLP whisper lid, Konis, AEM, HP Tuners, Angel eyes/Halos, CF SS ram air hood, 4.10s, Zexel Torsen, UMI SFCs, CrossFire, BFGs, Gatorback, Catco, Flows, and TLC! DONT feed the Trolls!

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    • #3
      Re: balance shaft

      i dont know about .1 of but you will deff notice the motor will rev faster
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      1997 3800 Series II Camaro
      4600 Stall for my ride to the mall :chug:
      7.18 @ 99.77 1/8 -1.8x sixty (current quickest v6 fbod)
      11.23 @ unk 5 1/4 - 7.19 1/8 - 1.83 sixty

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      • #4
        Re: balance shaft

        100 lbs = ~.1 sec in the 1/4, not 10 lbs.

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        • #5
          Re: balance shaft

          Originally posted by NOS2006
          100 lbs = ~.1 sec in the 1/4, not 10 lbs.
          That's for dead weight.

          10lbs of rotating mass also equals about .1 in the quarter.

          As far as needing it if you remove it you will need to fill the oil hole in the block as well as having everything externally balanced to compensate for removing it, but for a hardcore build up it's something most will do!

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          • #6
            Re: balance shaft

            Originally posted by Nachius
            That's for dead weight.

            10lbs of rotating mass also equals about .1 in the quarter.

            As far as needing it if you remove it you will need to fill the oil hole in the block as well as having everything externally balanced to compensate for removing it, but for a hardcore build up it's something most will do!
            Oh, well the way he worded I thought he meant it was 10 lbs of rotating mass, equaling only 1 lb of static weight. That thing seriously weighs 10 lbs?!

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            • #7
              Re: balance shaft

              Originally posted by NOS2006
              Oh, well the way he worded I thought he meant it was 10 lbs of rotating mass, equaling only 1 lb of static weight. That thing seriously weighs 10 lbs?!
              8-10 lb from what i have read
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              1997 3800 Series II Camaro
              4600 Stall for my ride to the mall :chug:
              7.18 @ 99.77 1/8 -1.8x sixty (current quickest v6 fbod)
              11.23 @ unk 5 1/4 - 7.19 1/8 - 1.83 sixty

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              • #8
                Re: balance shaft

                Wow, it definitely doesn't look like it weighs that much...

                Anyway, continue on with the topic of this thread..

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                • #9
                  Re: balance shaft

                  Originally posted by Nachius
                  That's for dead weight.

                  10lbs of rotating mass also equals about .1 in the quarter.

                  As far as needing it if you remove it you will need to fill the oil hole in the block as well as having everything externally balanced to compensate for removing it, but for a hardcore build up it's something most will do!
                  what do you mean externally balanced?? are you talking about the accesories like air conditioning and power steering? I ripped out all of my air conditioning components and am ripping out my power steering as we speak. i also have poly engine mounts will that make a difference?
                  96 3.8 red camaro. <br />headers,cam,valve springs,retainers,auburn lsd,3.73 gears,SLP cold air,accel coils,24lb injectors,8mm plug wires,air temp module,LT1 diveshaft,removed a/c,edelbrock torque arm,spohn LCA\'s and PHR

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                  • #10
                    Re: balance shaft

                    Originally posted by NOS2006
                    Oh, well the way he worded I thought he meant it was 10 lbs of rotating mass, equaling only 1 lb of static weight. That thing seriously weighs 10 lbs?!
                    i worded it correctly
                    i did mean 10 lbs of rotating mass, which does not equal 1lb of static weight
                    its 8-10lbs of static rotating mass

                    I dont think you even have to worry about balancing. Lance said that he didnt really notice a difference with it on/off.
                    2k2 camaro, K&N, SLP whisper lid, Konis, AEM, HP Tuners, Angel eyes/Halos, CF SS ram air hood, 4.10s, Zexel Torsen, UMI SFCs, CrossFire, BFGs, Gatorback, Catco, Flows, and TLC! DONT feed the Trolls!

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                    • #11
                      Re: balance shaft

                      thanks for the input guys. one last thing. the hole that im going to have to plug, would i just be able to stick a freeze plug in there or weld something to the block or what? how do i plug it up.
                      96 3.8 red camaro. <br />headers,cam,valve springs,retainers,auburn lsd,3.73 gears,SLP cold air,accel coils,24lb injectors,8mm plug wires,air temp module,LT1 diveshaft,removed a/c,edelbrock torque arm,spohn LCA\'s and PHR

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                      • #12
                        Re: balance shaft

                        Originally posted by Timmy
                        thanks for the input guys. one last thing. the hole that im going to have to plug, would i just be able to stick a freeze plug in there or weld something to the block or what? how do i plug it up.
                        if you REMOVE the balance shaft you have to take out the motor and plug a oil hole...

                        you can how ever just remove the gear and leave the shaft sit in the motor
                        www.turbov6camaro.com
                        1997 3800 Series II Camaro
                        4600 Stall for my ride to the mall :chug:
                        7.18 @ 99.77 1/8 -1.8x sixty (current quickest v6 fbod)
                        11.23 @ unk 5 1/4 - 7.19 1/8 - 1.83 sixty

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                        • #13
                          Re: balance shaft

                          i said "remove the chain and leave the shaft"
                          viper is correct
                          i meant "remove the gear and leave the shaft"
                          2k2 camaro, K&N, SLP whisper lid, Konis, AEM, HP Tuners, Angel eyes/Halos, CF SS ram air hood, 4.10s, Zexel Torsen, UMI SFCs, CrossFire, BFGs, Gatorback, Catco, Flows, and TLC! DONT feed the Trolls!

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                          • #14
                            Re: balance shaft

                            If necessary, how would you take out the balance shaft? I might need to for my block to get cleaned (dipped)..

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