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  • New to Cam and valvetrain...

    I was just wondering if you could change your valve springs without removing anything but the valve covers (dumb question?)?

    and if you could put in a cam without taking off the intake manifold?
    1999 Camaro Z/28
    1973 Firebird Formula

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    Re: New to Cam and valvetrain...

    To change the valvesprings, you have to take off the rockers, engine lift brackets (have fun with the passenger side ;) ) and ICM/coil packs as well. Other than that, there is nothing else to remove.

    Here is a good write up from a member of this site who swapped his valvesprings and rockers: http://home.comcast.net/~grayman99/rocker-review.htm

    As far as the not removing the intake mani to swap a cam.....I dont know, good question.
    Last edited by Shodown; 02-23-2007, 11:36 AM.
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    • #3
      Re: New to Cam and valvetrain...

      gotta remove the intake manifolds.

      and yes....that pass side bracket is a HHHHHHUUUUUUUUUGGGGGGGGGEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE *****.

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      • #4
        Re: New to Cam and valvetrain...

        Originally posted by badinfluenceRS
        and if you could put in a cam without taking off the intake manifold?
        there is a way to do it

        http://www.fullthrottlev6.com/forums...ad.php?t=25316

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        • #5
          Re: New to Cam and valvetrain...

          Originally posted by UDLOSE98
          gotta remove the intake manifolds.

          and yes....that pass side bracket is a HHHHHHUUUUUUUUUGGGGGGGGGEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE *****.
          yes it was, thank god mine came off, and it's NEVER going back on. There's a bolt behind the tranny dipstick holder incase u cant find one

          Camaro V6 - 14.3 @ 96mph
          Camaro SS - cam/boltons/m6/tune
          http://www.crfhq.com

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          • #6
            Re: New to Cam and valvetrain...

            i dont see how you could leave the intakes on and still manage to get the lower intake gaskests on.

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            • #7
              Re: New to Cam and valvetrain...

              You don't need to take the intakes off, but no one has tried it the way smoke panther has showed, so whoever goes first is taking a big risk :)

              Camaro V6 - 14.3 @ 96mph
              Camaro SS - cam/boltons/m6/tune
              http://www.crfhq.com

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              • #8
                Re: New to Cam and valvetrain...

                Originally posted by UDLOSE98
                i dont see how you could leave the intakes on and still manage to get the lower intake gaskests on.
                There are holes in the block where you can insert dowels to hold up the lifters/pushrods.
                1998 M5 3.8 Mystic Teal Camaro<br />Flowmaster exhaust, Pacesetter headers, 3\" cat, 3\" S-pipe, whisper lid, ram air, Spec Stage 1 clutch, Poly Trans mount, Walbro 255LPH. Numerous appearance mods.<br /><br /> <a href=\"http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2130533\" target=\"_blank\">http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2130533</a>

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                • #9
                  Re: New to Cam and valvetrain...

                  still, im not talking about them, im saying how do you make the lower intake mani gasket stay in place....I think there are notches on the heads tho now that i think about it.

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                  • #10
                    Re: New to Cam and valvetrain...

                    thanks guys, that's some good info.

                    I'm going to start looking for vavle springs and rockers (since you don't have to remove the head :) after I get some suspension upgrades in :()

                    and someday a ways in the future do the cam
                    Last edited by badinfluenceRS; 02-24-2007, 02:00 PM.
                    1999 Camaro Z/28
                    1973 Firebird Formula

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                    • #11
                      Re: New to Cam and valvetrain...

                      so...can anyone give me a good website for finding valve springs and rockers?

                      I'm looking for ones that will give me the best performance without any other engine internal upgrades...(I have to change my valve cover gaskets so might as well do what I can while I'm in there...)

                      what about LS6 springs...http://texas-speed.com/shop/item.asp...d=211&catid=48

                      I'm not going to do a cam...so what would be the best combination of springs and rockers
                      Last edited by badinfluenceRS; 02-24-2007, 09:55 PM.
                      1999 Camaro Z/28
                      1973 Firebird Formula

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                      • #12
                        Re: New to Cam and valvetrain...

                        zzperformance.com they are right here in MI over in Grand Rapids and one of the leaders in the 3800 community. Go under the grand prix section
                        http://www.bowtiev6.com/

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                        • #13
                          Re: New to Cam and valvetrain...

                          Originally posted by 97rs4life
                          zzperformance.com they are right here in MI over in Grand Rapids and one of the leaders in the 3800 community. Go under the grand prix section
                          yes I checked them out online...so would 1.9 Rockers w/ LS6 valve springs be a good combination?

                          https://www.zzperformance.com/grand_...=426&catid=104
                          ^^1.9 rockers
                          1999 Camaro Z/28
                          1973 Firebird Formula

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                          • #14
                            Re: New to Cam and valvetrain...

                            haha nevermind...don't know what i was thinking...that write up did 1.9 rockers and LS6 springs...that is what I will do after suspension work
                            1999 Camaro Z/28
                            1973 Firebird Formula

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                            • #15
                              Re: New to Cam and valvetrain...

                              Time for a noobish question now, but i don't know jack about the engine internals really: What good does replacing the valve springs (and rockers, etc.) do?


                              Originally posted by SSMOWS6
                              i mean, you can always fly wes out there and since he's a tool sometimes, fashion him into a plow for the maro
                              R.I.P. '07 Pats
                              Still... 18-1 > 1 and done

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