Rocker Q's.

[tkoforpresident]

Re: Rocker Q's.

i just read through the haynes, looks like i'd have to remove the exhaust manifolds.... thats something i'd really rather not do.... i payed someone to put my headers on and they had a hell of a time puttin em on..

the only way i'd consider doin it is if you told me i wouldn't break any bolts (they're stage 8 bolts) and that they'd be much easier to put on considering all that **** is already out of the engine bay, otherwise forget about it!

I would love to P&P the stock heads tho.... with all my supporting mods (full bolt ons, P&P TB, 1.6 rockers) what kind of gains would that produce?

[tkoforpresident]

Re: Rocker Q's.

small update: went out and picked up some new o rings for the injectors and a coolant temperature sensor for the LIM, i'm installing them tonight.


max

[camaro9407]

Re: Rocker Q's.

ok with that you are probably gonna look at about 15to25 rwhp with the heads p&p. the headers will be much easier plus the grade 8 bolts are pretty tough and worst come to worst and you do break a bolt (highly unlikely since there new and mine are 13 years old and didnt break) you are going to bring the heads to the machine shop anyways so they prolly wont charge since you are gettin other wirk done. also bring the lim and the headers and they can gasket match them for optimum flow.you will see mega gains if you get all of that done

[tkoforpresident]

Re: Rocker Q's.

ok with that you are probably gonna look at about 15to25 rwhp with the heads p&p. the headers will be much easier plus the grade 8 bolts are pretty tough and worst come to worst and you do break a bolt (highly unlikely since there new and mine are 13 years old and didnt break) you are going to bring the heads to the machine shop anyways so they prolly wont charge since you are gettin other wirk done. also bring the lim and the headers and they can gasket match them for optimum flow.you will see mega gains if you get all of that done

omg, i'm gettin really excited now.

MEGA gains, thats totally awesome.

:rock:


yeah dude, guess i'll start takin off those heads..

obviously i have some questions before i get to this part...

1. are the head bolts reusable? if you think i should just get some new ones for peace of mind i found they are only 30 dollar from advanced auto.
2. where is the power steering pump and whats the best way to get it off?
3. what is gasket matching?
4. can they P&P the LIM ?
5. it says to remove the heads i have to take out the push rods, talk to me about that....

thanx for the help

max

[IwannaCamarosoBad]

Re: Rocker Q's.

omg, i'm gettin really excited now.

MEGA gains, thats totally awesome.

:rock:


yeah dude, guess i'll start takin off those heads..

obviously i have some questions before i get to this part...

1. are the head bolts reusable? if you think i should just get some new ones for peace of mind i found they are only 30 dollar from advanced auto.
2. where is the power steering pump and whats the best way to get it off?
3. what is gasket matching?
4. can they P&P the LIM ?
5. it says to remove the heads i have to take out the push rods, talk to me about that....

thanx for the help

max

Definitely keep updates on this, I wanna see where this goes

[tkoforpresident]

Re: Rocker Q's.

Definitely keep updates on this, I wanna see where this goes

absolutely,this has been an ogoing process (if you've read all the posts so far) and is turning into a noobs how to tear down and rebuild the 3.4 with some performance parts.

you can check back often, i usually update daily with questions and updates.

these guys are really helpin me out. :wavey:

[IwannaCamarosoBad]

Re: Rocker Q's.

absolutely,this has been an ogoing process (if you've read all the posts so far) and is turning into a noobs how to tear down and rebuild the 3.4 with some performance parts.

you can check back often, i usually update daily with questions and updates.

these guys are really helpin me out. :wavey:

Imma go back and read this but I will ask this because Im a little lazy lol

Are you using Rksport stuff? and 3400 stuff??

[tkoforpresident]

Re: Rocker Q's.

Imma go back and read this but I will ask this because Im a little lazy lol

Are you using Rksport stuff? and 3400 stuff??

naw i've been pokin around the 3400 stuff to see if i could afford a whole swap considering i'm takin it all out anyhow, but it seems in the end i will end up P&Ping the stock heads and adding in some 1.6 rockers, should net me some nice gains....

[IwannaCamarosoBad]

Re: Rocker Q's.

naw i've been pokin around the 3400 stuff to see if i could afford a whole swap considering i'm takin it all out anyhow, but it seems in the end i will end up P&Ping the stock heads and adding in some 1.6 rockers, should net me some nice gains....

Sweet! Im still undecided on weither to keep the 3.4 or try and find either A) a 3.8 camaro for trade (Doubtful) B) find a 3.8 engine to dump in the 95 or C) LT1

[tkoforpresident]

Re: Rocker Q's.

dude stick with the 3.4

in the end i'm probably looking at 200rwhp.

that is if i can get all this done as i hope.

[IwannaCamarosoBad]

Re: Rocker Q's.

dude stick with the 3.4

in the end i'm probably looking at 200rwhp.

that is if i can get all this done as i hope.

yeah, I thought about putting an underdrive pulley on

[camaro9407]

Re: Rocker Q's.

ok no underdrive pulleys on the 3.4. i did them and it ****e*up my alternator.

[FunkZ]

Re: Rocker Q's.

you are probably gonna look at about 15to25 rwhp with the heads p&p.

There is no way you are going to pick up 25 horsepower at the rear wheels just by having the heads done. Even 15 is a stretch. I would say 5-10 is a more realistic number.

Head bolts are torque-to-yield. They are tightened to 41 pounds and then given another ¼ turn, which is supposed to stretch the threads slightly. It is recommended to replace them, although many people reuse them including myself.

The power steering bracket is a real PITA to get off. To pull the pump you will need a special puller for the pulley. You may be able to take the whole pump/bracket off together. There are quite a few bolts holding it on.

When you lay a gasket on the heads or LIM you will notice the gasket opening is slightly larger than the ports. Gasket matching means enlarging the ports to the same size as the gasket. Yes the LIM runners can be enlarged and some parts of the upper but you won't be able to get to all of the passages.

Push rods fit between the lifters and rockers. When you take your rockers off the push rods will be sitting loose in the guides. Just pull them out and lay them aside. It's recommended that you keep track of which one goes in each position but they are all the same length so it really shouldn't matter. On the aluminum head 60° motors the intake and exhaust push rods are different lengths and you can end up bending rods if you get them mixed up.

Underdrive pullies do not **** up your alternator. I have had mine on for years. They will however spin it much slower, and the power output goes down. At idle it will typically drop below 12v.

[camaro9407]

Re: Rocker Q's.

ok here we go. head bolts are reuseable but they stretch when torqued so i personally wo\uld buy new ones. the power steering pump and all that stuff are on one bracket for the left side and one on the right. you can leave it all on just take the ling bolts that connect the bracket to the heads and on the alternator side there is some mounting brackets so take a pic so you put them back right. as far as gasket matching goes your air comes from the lim to the heads and where they meet there is an overlap so they shoot paint through the lim and where it hits on the heads the grind it out to make it a smooth channel. same for the exhaust.so in that effort they can p&p the lim. as far as the push rods when you remove the rockers you will make the pushrods loose and they will slide out. and to change the lim gasket the push rods have to come out anyways.you will see if you look. because of wear patterns you need to make sure when you thake out the push rods they need to go back in the exact spot in which they were removed because if not it will cause them to wear out quickly. for example if the end goes in the rocker in cyl 1 then the same end should be down on the rocker not upside down.

omg, i'm gettin really excited now.

MEGA gains, thats totally awesome.

:rock:


yeah dude, guess i'll start takin off those heads..

obviously i have some questions before i get to this part...

1. are the head bolts reusable? if you think i should just get some new ones for peace of mind i found they are only 30 dollar from advanced auto.
2. where is the power steering pump and whats the best way to get it off?
3. what is gasket matching?
4. can they P&P the LIM ?
5. it says to remove the heads i have to take out the push rods, talk to me about that....

thanx for the help

max

[tkoforpresident]

Re: Rocker Q's.

Ok, now for some prices.

Would i be better off buying new pushrods? If so how much would those cost?
Also, this whole ordeal of P&P'ing and gasket matching everything, how much does that run?
The power steering pump seems like a ***** to get off, so i'll take a look at it and see if i can get a game plan goin.

thanx

max