Rocker Q's.

[IwannaCamarosoBad]

Re: Rocker Q's.

Ok, now for some prices.

Would i be better off buying new pushrods? If so how much would those cost?
Also, this whole ordeal of P&P'ing and gasket matching everything, how much does that run?
The power steering pump seems like a ***** to get off, so i'll take a look at it and see if i can get a game plan goin.

thanx

max

Jegs looks like a great place to get an Idea on pricing

[tkoforpresident]

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are these push rods direct replacements?

http://store.summitracing.com/partde...7&autoview=sku

if they are i might as well get new ones and replace them when i do the rockers.

[IwannaCamarosoBad]

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are these push rods direct replacements?

http://store.summitracing.com/partde...7&autoview=sku

if they are i might as well get new ones and replace them when i do the rockers.

Would they fit? I see the details of it

Push Rod, Chevy/Isuzu/Jeep, 2.8L, V6, 6.163 in. O.A.L., Each

[tkoforpresident]

Re: Rocker Q's.

well what i need to know is if they would be compatible with the 1.6 roller rockers i picked up and whether or not replacing them is a good idea.

[IwannaCamarosoBad]

Re: Rocker Q's.

well what i need to know is if they would be compatible with the 1.6 roller rockers i picked up and whether or not replacing them is a good idea.

the post that guy mae said it was a good idea because if not the compression ratio is like 14.somethin to 1

[FunkZ]

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the post that guy mae said it was a good idea because if not the compression ratio is like 14.somethin to 1

Pushrods have absolutely nothing to do with CR. You look like an idiot giving out advice on something you know nothing about.

Max go to FTPP.net, there are Comp Cams pushrods to match those rockers. You can replace them if you want but really no reason to unless one of the stock ones is bent. Roll them on a flat surface to check for wobble. If you were going with much stiffer valve springs then the hardened pushrods are recommended.

[tkoforpresident]

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thanks zahn, i was disregarding that guys ridiculous advice but i didn't want to say anything. If there is wear on any of them i will get new pushrods. I see now by looking at the LIM gaskets that the pushrods need to come out anyhow to get the gasket underneath them.
I'm also beginning to feel i'm getting a bit too far into this.

I think i'll just stay with replacing the rockers, and pushrods if they are needing replacement. I've got school starting soon and i just want to make sure i have this thing ready by the spring time. I do want to ask, since i'll be taking the LIM to a shop to have it retapped for the coolant hose fitting would there be any worth whatsoever in having them P&P the LIM? Or should i just continue to clean them out with my old tooth brush? =)

Sorry to disapoint anyone but this is my daily driver for 7 months out of the year and i just want to make sure i get it done so i will not be delving any deeper into the engine.

thanx

max

[IwannaCamarosoBad]

Re: Rocker Q's.

Pushrods have absolutely nothing to do with CR. You look like an idiot giving out advice on something you know nothing about.

Max go to FTPP.net, there are Comp Cams pushrods to match those rockers. You can replace them if you want but really no reason to unless one of the stock ones is bent. Roll them on a flat surface to check for wobble. If you were going with much stiffer valve springs then the hardened pushrods are recommended.

As I recall I was giving him advice?

[tkoforpresident]

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As I recall I was giving him advice?

you were giving what we call BAD advice.

Funk is just pointing out that pushrods have absolutely nothing to do with compression ratio so what you said doesn't really make any sense at all. :tup:

[FunkZ]

Re: Rocker Q's.

Yes, push rods go through the intake gaskets. Nothing special to removing them or putting them back in, just make sure they're centered in the lifter and rocker seats when you go to tighten the rocker nuts back down. As for wear you'll see spots worn where they go past the guides but that is normal. Lengths should be close but they don't need to be exact because the rockers are adjustable, you'll be taking up any slop when you do the tightening procedure. Push rod lengths are more critical on non-adjustable rockers like the 3.8 or 3400. You could check on pricing to do the LIM and then decide, would be better to have the heads and plenum done to match though.

[camaro9407]

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from my point of view i agree with funk. you dont need to replace them if they are not worn badly or bent. so as far as the p&p work maybe you should just wait and do them all together bc i priced it and just the heads was like 200 and that was a deal. so up to you what to spend. but i would just clean it up and check all the pushrods. make sure you get all the gaskets in place and FOLLOW TORQUE PROCEDURE SO AS TO NOT WARP THE LIM AND UIM BECAUSE THEY ARE SENSETIVE TO BOLT TORQUE PROCEDURE. it is like do the inner ones at x torque working out and then do it again at x torque. if not your intake gaskets may start to leak and then you will be pissed. also NO LOCTITE bc you will take the threads out next time you open her back up. i know ive done it. look up the tb bypass and do it while everything is off.its been a pleasure helping you. good luck keep us posted

[tkoforpresident]

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hey sounds good =)

the tb bypass was done already til i broke that piece off, but now those hoses wont even exist lol.

I'll most likely just clean out the UIM and LIM as much as i can with brake cleaner ect. maybe free up some lost power. I bought a torque wrench that i'm gonna use to make sure i torqe everything right. I have no idea how it works but i'm sure my friend knows how to use it correctly. We're gonna start on monday (i'm really excited) we're gonna pull off the rockers and the pushrods (if they're bad i'll have to buy new ones and that will delay things) also we're gonna try to get that stud out that broke off in the EGR. We'll probably try to drill it out then retap it.

Zahn, you said it would be easier to install the rockers with the LIM off, well now that its off could you tell me what i should be looking for when installing the rockers? Do you still suggest going through the spark plug hole? i was thinking bout getting new plugs anyhow.

thanx

max

[FunkZ]

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With the LIM off you can easily watch the lifters move as you rotate the engine by hand, so really no reason why you couldn't take the rockers off now. Only reason not to before was just to make it easier to gauge TDC by watching the rockers move. Once you find TDC for #1 you will easily be able to see which lifters are fully seated on the lobe center and which ones are either on the up or down side of a lobe.

[tkoforpresident]

Re: Rocker Q's.

sounds good

[tkoforpresident]

Re: Rocker Q's.

update:

the weather was pretty crappy so we decided to hold off on the install.

I went out and picked up the gaskets for the upper and lower intake manifolds as well as some black RTV. I also got some more brake cleaner and installed the O rings for the injectors. I'm gonna try to clean that intake a bit more tonight.

max