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  • Whats the best scratch removal for black paint?

    My camaro is black so all the scratchs show up (i hate it!) ive tried GS14 and Duplicolor but both have ended up horribly and ive had to pay 300 dollars for those repairs.

    Doesnt anything work??!?
    -Tony Ridino<br />\'96 Camaro (Black)<br />3.8L V6<br />Euros - Halogens - Dynomax Exhaust - Racing Wires - Wings West OEM Body Kit - Windshield lettering - Wings West Billet Grille - Euro Tail-lights - Red Carbon Fiber Letter Moldings - Custom Gauges - Clear Corners & Bumber Lenses<p>Email me at: ooga_labooga@hotmail.com

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    Ive tried every item on the shelf at every store on my black car and nothing has worked. Ive even stopped repainting my car because of the condition ofthe roads around here, I think ive repainted my front end 4 times so far
    Dont call me chief.<br /><br />2001 Camaro Convertible Rs Replica<br />1991 Acura Legend

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    • #3
      If the scratch is in the paint than the only way to fix it is to have it repainted.
      If it is just in the clearcoat, an abrasive like 3M (#39009) works very well.
      <b>« Red <i><a href=\"http://sandman.v8tec.com\" target=\"_blank\">Firebird</a></i> »</b>

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      • #4
        What is that and where can i get it?
        -Tony Ridino<br />\'96 Camaro (Black)<br />3.8L V6<br />Euros - Halogens - Dynomax Exhaust - Racing Wires - Wings West OEM Body Kit - Windshield lettering - Wings West Billet Grille - Euro Tail-lights - Red Carbon Fiber Letter Moldings - Custom Gauges - Clear Corners & Bumber Lenses<p>Email me at: ooga_labooga@hotmail.com

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        • #5
          You can get it at Napa.
          It is a mild abrasive that takes out imperfections of the clearcoat, such as a scratch.
          <b>« Red <i><a href=\"http://sandman.v8tec.com\" target=\"_blank\">Firebird</a></i> »</b>

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          • #6
            Dont you have to buff it afterwards?
            Dont call me chief.<br /><br />2001 Camaro Convertible Rs Replica<br />1991 Acura Legend

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            • #7
              The 3m stuff will leave very fine scratches behind as it is an abrasive. The idea behind it is they are small enough to be easily hidden with polish/wax. I have used it on my red car to remove scratches and stubborn water spots, and it works well. But until you apply something over it, I use Zaino, you may still see the marks from the scratch remover.

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              • #8
                Look at the scratches.

                If you can see them in a certain light and the black is still there (clearcoat damage), then 3m finish restorer is a great product to try.

                Basically, 3m stuff.

                Finish restorer has gotten all kinds of scuffs out of my car. Even a spot where some dummy at the shop didn't polish out a wet sanding.

                Its 8 bucks a bottle, you will find it in the car paint section of a walmart or autozone (others may carry it, I dunno). It is a gray bottle w/ a blue c4 vette on the front. There will probably be another bottle right next to it that is about 5 bucks w/ a red c4 vette on it. I think that is stronger stuff.

                Finish restorer does have some wax in it, so you wouldn't want to use it on paint that has been painted in the last 60 days. (Really, you shouldn't do anything to paint that has been painted in the last 60 days, give it time to cure).

                I personally stay away from any harsh abrasives. The finish restorer is a tad weak & it might take some elbow grease to get everything out. But I personally would rather do more work w/ a lighter product than screw up w/ a stronger one.
                2001 75th Anniversary V6 Pewter Firebird w/ Chrome Wheels, T-Tops, & Y87<br />Mods: Free Ram Air, !Silencer, Holley Filter, Full 3\" Hooker Catback, 3\" Cat<br />Best time: 15.095 at 90.00 MPH with a 2.127 60\'

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                • #9
                  The 3M is not a harsh abrasive, and it doesn't need to be buffed.
                  Let me see if I can dig up an old post for you...

                  Edit - Here ya go :
                  http://www.camarov6.com/cgi-bin/ulti...c&f=5&t=000588

                  Good luck.

                  [ November 03, 2002: Message edited by: The Sandman ]</p>
                  <b>« Red <i><a href=\"http://sandman.v8tec.com\" target=\"_blank\">Firebird</a></i> »</b>

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                  • #10
                    Thanks everyone..ive never been this upset about a color of a car in my life.
                    -Tony Ridino<br />\'96 Camaro (Black)<br />3.8L V6<br />Euros - Halogens - Dynomax Exhaust - Racing Wires - Wings West OEM Body Kit - Windshield lettering - Wings West Billet Grille - Euro Tail-lights - Red Carbon Fiber Letter Moldings - Custom Gauges - Clear Corners & Bumber Lenses<p>Email me at: ooga_labooga@hotmail.com

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                    • #11
                      this was posted on LS1.com a while ago...

                      Okay guys, You want to get swirl marks out 100% with a direct sunbeam hitting your car? I'll tell you how...and I have a Black (the most unforgiving color) SS! This took me years to figure out and I have come up with the bulletproof way to eliminate swirls out of even black paint. This is a god damn phenomenon. (sp)
                      This is what I did...If you follow this 100% you will have success.

                      What you'll need:

                      Kevin SS Towels. I used the Charisma's. Only the best.(or terry cloth towels?)
                      Dawn Dishwashing detergent
                      Your full Zaino kit(could be replaced the meguires system)
                      "The Wax Shop" Safe cut Swirl & Haze remover
                      bucket
                      water hose

                      I'm going to start off by saying This takes a full 3 hours at least, but if you're like me it's worth every second. This also involves you to start the Zaino process over. This discovery happened because of my recent move to houston and I found out that my water really sucked *** and leaves water spots all over my ****. Then in pursuing the way to get waterspots off, I found a way to have a perfect finish. It's *****in' nutty!

                      First: Now would be the time to clay your car if it is needed. Do the Zaino "Clay your car" step if you feel necessary. I washed my car one panel at a time in the shade with zaino car wash and a little Kevin SS towel. It doesn't take any pressure at all just glide it over each section one time. I then dried the panels using the water hose method first (being that you use a low pressure stream of water directly from the water hose to make all of the water collect and just kinda flow off) followed by drying the little excess drops with a medium to big Kevin SS towel. I then had zero added water spots to what I already had on my car. So I know that this method of washing your car will definitely not make your car spot up. Again, my water sucks.

                      Second: Pull your car in as much shade as you can obtain. I used my garage. Shake the ever living hell out of the Safe Cut Swirl and haze remover. Apply it to a Small clean Kevin SS towel that is slightly damp. Rub the towel on a section of the paint about 2'X1' area in a circular motion with moderate pressure as fast as you can. (This is the part I discovered how to get those swirl *****ers out!) Then use another small, clean, dry Kevin SS towel and wipe in a circular motion with moderate pressure as fast as you can. Take your car out in the sun with a direct sun beam hitting it, and look at it. The B pillar (roof hoop) is the best thing to look at. If you still see swirls hit it again with the same step. It took me about 6 times before 100% were absolutely gone. How ever many times it took you to get them 100% out, do it that many times on the sections of the car. This is a long process but it definitely works.

                      Third: Knowing that you just used an abrasive, Kevin SS or any Zaino distributer will tell you that scratches will show up over time. This is 100% true. Well, not if you seal the mother *****er in zaino after you just got them all out. This is the part where you start the zaino process over... and yes even the Dawn detergent is required. Remember that you should have already clayed your car to your liking if it needed it. So, you get to skip that step on the starting over process. I've used Zaino for years and have never been able to fully get out swirls with z5. They have been small, but I don't want any when the sun is shining Right on my car.

                      Good luck to all you guys and girls. I know Manny had the same problem I did with the little ones a while back. And I have been looking for years how to do it. Finally! I'm finished.

                      Ohhhh yeah. My disclaimer. I'm not responseable for **** you do to your car. If for some reason you are an idiot, have low patience, or just have a bad day, I am just telling you that this worked for me. And I just have to say this so I don't get sued. God knows that's the last thing I need right now.

                      [ November 03, 2002: Message edited by: WickEdSix9838 ]</p>
                      <b>Black</b> 1998 Pontiac <i>Firebird</i> A-4 swap<br />271.4rwhp/259.4rwtq NA<br />13.30@102.44 <br /><a href=\"http://www.freewebs.com/wickedsix98\" target=\"_blank\">www.freewebs.com/wickedsix98</a>

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