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    Ok - some have already seen pics of this "work in progress"... I figured I'd put this in one spot to entertain the masses.

    In short, this is the story of my '96 Convertible

    I bought this in pretty beaten-up shape for $1k.




    Of course, it had mechanical issues, though the engine was fine.

    I wound up replacing the brakes all around, though the front rotors were a pain:


  • #2
    Re: My winter resurrection project (long post)

    The convertible top needed serious love too:






    And if you noticed in the last pic, the window is completely out of its channel.

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    • #3
      Re: My winter resurrection project (long post)

      For a while, it sat in the snow until I could get time to work on it:


      Of course, when the snow melted, it went right through the top and I had to use a Shop Vac to get all the water out.

      Then finally I got space in the garage to start work. The biggest item was the top:




      As well as fixing the driver's window. I wound up tack-welding one of the runners back into the channel, and replacing the broken felt-fuzzy brackets up top. (I'll put up pics later).
      Last edited by traumadog; 03-11-2009, 04:31 PM.

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      • #4
        Re: My winter resurrection project (long post)

        So after much pulling, pushing, stapling, cursing and sweating, I managed to get the top on and replaced the headliner myself.




        It looks a good bit better, IMHO.

        Anyhow, the other bits I don't have pics of are replacing the remotes, spare and jack; I also swapped out the transmission shifter cable, as the adjustment pin was gone.

        Next up is finishing the interior cleaning and trim, as well as some rust spots all around.

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        • #5
          Re: My winter resurrection project (long post)

          looks good, keep us updated with the restruct!

          Archer
          MISC: 01 parts. Some interior, T top kit, seats etc.
          http://forum.camarov6.com/showthread.php?t=95347

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          • #6
            Re: My winter resurrection project (long post)

            nice, and it appears to be a Y87, good job!

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            • #7
              Re: My winter resurrection project (long post)

              good work, the black top looks much better on that color than white. well done

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              • #8
                Re: My winter resurrection project (long post)

                Once you're done that'll be a cool summer car.

                How much have you put in so far?

                1998 Firebird . 1989 Firebird XS . 1986 Fiero GT

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                • #9
                  Re: My winter resurrection project (long post)

                  *****ing man, i need to get me a project car.

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                  • #10
                    Re: My winter resurrection project (long post)

                    Originally posted by Mighty Thor View Post
                    Once you're done that'll be a cool summer car.

                    How much have you put in so far?
                    Total (car included), just under $3k. Most expensive things were the top pieces, and new front hubs (getting the rotors off whacked the old ones). I'm junkyarding or McGyvering the rest.

                    Originally posted by Niko97RS View Post
                    nice, and it appears to be a Y87, good job!
                    Thanks, and you're right it is a Y87.

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                    • #11
                      Re: My winter resurrection project (long post)

                      As for anyone curious - here's the write-up on how the top swap went:

                      Replacing a Camaro/Firebird convertible top

                      Items needed:
                      Phillips screwdriver
                      4mm hex wrench/Allen key
                      10mm socket (6-point preferable)
                      T50 Torx socket/bit
                      Large flat screwdriver or straightedge
                      Large staple gun, with 3/8” and 1/4” staples (I used Arrow T50 #506 and #508)
                      Sharpie pen, crayon/chalk

                      It’s also best to keep track of where the screws go – they are different throughout the top

                      Removal:

                      1) Disconnect battery.
                      2) In trunk on driver’s side, turn the top pump valve fully clockwise (should be about ¼ turn).
                      3) Unlatch top, push back about halfway. Top mechanism will be stiff, but moveable.
                      4) Fold the rear seat flat.
                      5) Remove the inner rear quarter panels – you will need the T50 Torx for the seat latch bolts. There is also a screw outboard of the front seat belts, only easily accessible with the top folded back. Once those two are out, the panel can be rotated upward and forward – just be careful of the quarter-panel light connector inside.
                      6) Lower the top again – but you don’t have to latch it. It will be easier to get to the rear bolts, etc.
                      7) At rear of car by each side of the window, remove the two short Phillips screws holding the back of the headliner in place. If you have a defogger grid, also disconnect the wires and pull them out of the top.
                      8) There will be a set of 10mm nuts holding the back of the top to the rear of the car. This strip runs to just behind the door on each side. Some of the bolts are hidden by trim pieces. You can remove them – I just bent them out of the way.
                      9) Dislodge the rear strip (known as bow #5 in the parts diagrams) This will pop free – but may be a bit tight to get out. It’s easier to do the center from inside, while the sides are easier from outside.
                      10) Push up the top halfway. Remove the weatherstripping from both sides – the top piece pulls right out (it’s just glued), while the rear piece has a screw at the bottom, underneath the black triangle trim.
                      11) There is an additional screw holding the top fabric next to that one, under the black triangle trim. You can remove that one now, too.
                      12) The weatherstrip holders are held on with long screws too – three for each piece above the window, four along the back.
                      13) The headliner door trim is held on with three smaller screws – remove those.
                      14) The inner headliner to header bow trim is held on by screws as well. Once that is loose, the headliner will come down. It’s also clamped/clipped on to the next two bows – they just pop off. The rear edge of the headliner is held on in a channel, and can’t be removed as easily. I left it to the end.
                      15) The sides of the headliner (next to the door glass) are held on by Velcro/snaps. That can be undone, as well as the pair of short screws up by bow #3/#4 at the top.
                      16) The black triangle trim can be removed by reaching behind the piece, and undoing the two 4mm Allen screws that hold it on.
                      17) The top itself can be removed from the back, going forward. I left #5 bow attached to see where the rest of the parts fit. #4 bow can also be detached with a pair of short 4mm Allen screws on each side. Note, the rear window and the back of the headliner are attached to #4 bow via tongue and channel. I popped one side of the headliner free (the last attachment is down by the mechanism hinge deep in the quarter panel – kept in by a pushpin) and pulled it out sideways from the channel. There is also another reinforcement (looks like a wide nylon strap). Pull this one free of its staples in bow #4.

                      Note: if you can do this without pulling that headliner pushpin out, do so. It’s a pain to put it back into place.

                      18) There is a reinforcement (looks like nylon belt webbing) stapled to bow #4 and running forward. Mark this location and remove the staples to it to free the bow.
                      19) Once the top is past #3 bow, you should see the top cables in place on each side, above the windows. Undo those (sometimes one, sometimes two) screws holding it in place. The top also has tongues of fabric glued to #3 and #2 bows. This can be peeled off.
                      20) At the front edge of the header bow, undo the screws holding the front plate in place. At this point, the front is glued on – peel that off, and the top should be free. I left the top cables attached to the header bow.


                      Replacement:

                      I marked all of the locations of the fabric under-pieces, reinforcements, etc using a sharpie on bows #5 and #4 before removing the top from them. It makes it easier to re-staple them in place later. The new top should have extra fabric sewn to it which will attach to the bows in some way.

                      1) Remove/replace rear window in channel on bow #4.
                      2) Staple the tongue of fabric at the back of the top cover to the top of bow #4 using the short staples. Be sure to center the top to the bow. Also, there’s a reinforcing side piece that also has to be stapled to bow #4 on each side of the top. This side piece has some elastic attached to them to keep the top down over the window.
                      3) Measure the length of the old rear window to gauge the length on the new one. Staple the new rear window to bow #5. Be sure to keep this centered as well. Also, trim the rear window fabric some to clear the slots.
                      4) Staple the rear sides of the top to bow #5 – it’s best to start from the front and work backwards, keeping the fabric tight. Also, be sure to staple the bottom part of the reinforcing side pieces along with the rear window. Expect parts of the top to be thicker – by the front corners as well as where the layers overlap. Here you will need the longer staples.

                      Note: I started the fabric about ¼” back from the bow end to keep it from wrinkling on mine. Fabric patterns might differ slightly. Also, trim where the slots are here as well.

                      5) Once that’s in place, the assembly goes back to the car. Reattach bow #4 using the pair of 4mm Allen screws. I put the rear headliner channel back into place here too.
                      6) Working from back to front, reattach bow #5. It may take a bit of work to get the bow back on the studs.
                      7) Re-staple that heavy nylon strap reinforcement to bow #4. Lower the top, but don’t latch it. Make sure everything is snug, not tight.
                      8) Slide the top cables along the sleeves in the part of the top above the windows, and secure the cables in place w/ its screws.
                      9) Lay the top out over the rest of the frame. Pull the sides down behind the windows and you can pop one screw in to hold the fabric down. (This is the one under the black triangle trim.)
                      10) With the top down, fold over and mark the front edge of the top on the fabric.
                      11) Raise the top again. You can reglue the top into position at this point (I just used the screws and plate to hold it in place. Be sure to pull the top an additional 1/4 to 1/2” or so past the mark you made, to get the top tight. Once all the screws are in place, you can lower the top again. Check to see if the top is tight.
                      12) The tongues on the top fabric then can be re-glued to bows #3 and #2 – I just held them in place with the headliner clips.
                      13) Replace the headliner, first with the screws between the sides of bows #3 and #4, then the rear screws, then the clips going forward. Replace the headliner/header/door trim pieces (all three) to finish that off.
                      14) Raise the top halfway again. Be sure the top material is tight enough in place along the vertical part of the top. Trim holes for the screws along the back of the window. Replace the black triangle trim with the 4mm Allen screws. Replace the weatherstripping channels as well. The rear weatherstrip channels will also help to hold the top in place.

                      Note: if you’ve been having problems with window sealing, you can shift the weatherstripping channels a little outward – the screw holes are slotted.

                      15) Once the weatherstrip channels are in place, replace the weatherstrip. I used a large flat-bladed screwdriver to push the weatherstrip into the notches holding it in place – just be careful not to rip it.
                      16) Snap/Velcro the last bit of headliner into place along the sides.
                      17) Replace the inner quarter panel pieces (don’t forget the light connectors).
                      18) Lower the top and latch it into place. It should be VERY tight. At this point, expect not to undo it for a couple weeks to let it “set”.
                      19) Turn top pump back on (counterclockwise), and reconnect battery. Also reconnect the defogger wires if you have them.

                      That’s it. Took me a week (about 8 or so hours alone) to do this.

                      Sorry about the long post.

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                      • #12
                        Re: My winter resurrection project (long post)

                        Nice post. I just did my top, but I didn't have to undo the headliner with the exception of the very back screws on the tack strip. I also did not undo the pads, I thought they seemed to help keep the top's bows in the right position. I also left all the bows in place. The top on my 95 just slid out of the track, once it was unstapled from the back tack strip. I followed the guide over on camaroz28.

                        Here's the link: http://www.camaroz28.com/forums/appe...o-pics-638740/

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