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  • Tourqe Converter Question?

    Well this seems like a great upgrade. I dont realy know tons about them though. I'be been looking at the www.edgeracingconverters.com converters. The only probelm is iam not sure which one i should get for myself.

    How hard is this install?

    My mods are at the bottum but i also plan on doing the camshaft and 3.73 gears eventually but i want a converter that will be good also when i get that done.

    Any help would be appreciated thanks
    1999 Pontiac Trans Am M6 Far from stock.....
    Pics http://rides.webshots.com/album/5599...Dk?vhost=rides

  • #2
    Hopefully THIS topic will stay civil. [img]smile.gif[/img]

    I have a 3500 stall and it is completely streetable. Make sure when you buy one that is has a lock-up clutch. That way when you reach ~45mph the converter will lockup under normal driving conditions and save you from putting additional stress on the transmission. You might also want to look into the STR of the converter. The higher the number (2.8, 3.0) the harder it is off the line, the lower (1.6,2.0) the softer it is. Just depends if you want massive gains on the launch and less elsewhere, or more of a all-around converter with better high-end.

    The install is up there in the medium-difficult category. Ya, you could probably do it, but only if you have no apprehension in dropping your transmission, or even have the tools to do so. Once the tranny is down its quite simple. But then you have to put it all back together again. I would recommend getting a professional to do it. Install time is anywhere from 2-4 hours.

    Hope this helps ya out [img]smile.gif[/img]

    edit: woops, didn't see the M5 part, ya torque converters are only for automatics ;)

    [ February 06, 2003: Message edited by: TheBeast ]</p>

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    • #3
      this proves my point


      evan see what you have done
      you make it seem that edge is so ****ing wonderfull that people that cant even use a converter want one

      hrmm people really started liking edge when it was termed "ruthless"


      dam i was gonna drop the whole converter thing but i know the guy found edge because of alll your gay talk and dosnt even know what it does but it sounds like a good mod and dosnt know which one to get


      hrmmm lmao


      sorry guy no converter for you, you dont have an automatic


      ruthlessness: maybe evan can talk them into making edge clutches rofl

      [ February 06, 2003: Message edited by: Jason Morgan ]</p>

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      • #4
        Jason, what the HELL is your problem..

        Enough is enough.. take it OFF of the board!

        CamaroRob97, a torque converter is an automatic transmission mod, no way you can use it on your manual as you use a clutch. A Converter to an automatic is like a clutch to a manual, so perhaps look into an aftermarket clutch.
        Keith - Chicago<br /><a href=\"http://www.hptuners.com\" target=\"_blank\">HP Tuners - PCM Reprogramming</a><br /><a href=\"http://www.dxsoftware.com/magnus/\" target=\"_blank\">97 Firebird V6 to LS1 swap</a><br /><b>V8 9.967@132.78</b> 1.322 60\' NA Heads/Cam<br /><b>V8 10.295@128.48</b> 1.363 60\' NA Cam Only<br /><b>V8 10.987@119.31</b> 1.422 60\' NA Stock Internals<br /><b>V6 13.674@98.22</b> NA<br /><b>V6 12.394@104.91</b> N20 100HP

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        • #5
          Tourqe converts don't go on m5? I know what they basicly do, but i havent found a good place to just read on them yet. Don't get me wrong, but i want to learn as much as i can about this stuff.

          Its not somthing i would right away i would rather do the rear end gear and camshaft next. Then a converter
          1999 Pontiac Trans Am M6 Far from stock.....
          Pics http://rides.webshots.com/album/5599...Dk?vhost=rides

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          • #6
            <blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Jason Morgan:
            this proves my point


            evan see what you have done
            you make it seem that edge is so ****ing wonderfull that people that cant even use a converter want one

            hrmm people really started liking edge when it was termed "ruthless"


            dam i was gonna drop the whole converter thing but i know the guy found edge because of alll your gay talk and dosnt even know what it does but it sounds like a good mod and dosnt know which one to get


            hrmmm lmao


            sorry guy no converter for you, you dont have an automatic


            ruthlessness: maybe evan can talk them into making edge clutches rofl

            [ February 06, 2003: Message edited by: Jason Morgan ]
            <hr></blockquote>

            OMG im crying im laughing so hard.

            [img]graemlins/rofl.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/rofl.gif[/img] :D

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            • #7
              <blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by CamaroRob97:
              Tourqe converts don't go on m5? I know what they basicly do, but i havent found a good place to just read on them yet. Don't get me wrong, but i want to learn as much as i can about this stuff.

              Its not somthing i would right away i would rather do the rear end gear and camshaft next. Then a converter
              <hr></blockquote>

              Nope, a converter won't work on your car unless you drop an automatic transmission in it. However I could understand the desire to do such a thing because...

              aUtOmAtIc oWnZ jOo!!

              :D sorry couldn't resist

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              • #8
                im being honest though im sure he found out edge through evans post most likly right?

                and with all of evans talk about how good it was the poor guy didnt even know he couldnt have one but he knew he needed one cause it was ruthless

                im being serious see atleast the poor guy asked would of sucked had he went and bought a 3600 stall from edge and took it to a tranny shop and looked like a dumbass

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                • #9
                  ok ive learned somthing lol, but iam acutlly kinda happy then i dont need it. Next thing i want to look into then is camshaft and maybe even rocker arms who knows
                  1999 Pontiac Trans Am M6 Far from stock.....
                  Pics http://rides.webshots.com/album/5599...Dk?vhost=rides

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                  • #10
                    Rob... when Keith(Magnus) says it's an automatic mod, he means that it will not install on a manual transmission. Sorry man.. you have a clutch, not a converter.

                    All automatic cars have torque converters... the buzz you hear on this board is about performance tuned converters to replace the stock ones. It's not an add-on modification.

                    Manual transmissions use clutches not converters.

                    The comparable mod as Keith suggested for your manual car is an aftermarket(racing) clutch.

                    Check companies like ThunderRacing and RKSport.com for clutches... I'm sure there are others too.

                    Good luck [img]smile.gif[/img]
                    1997 silver Camaro RS<br />|T-Type Powered|<br /><a href=\"http://www.kwfbody.com\" target=\"_blank\">Looking for a local F-Body club in K/W, Ontario, Canada?</a>

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                    • #11
                      OOps, looks like i'm too late.. man all these people posted in the time it took me to type that :(

                      [img]graemlins/burnout.gif[/img]
                      1997 silver Camaro RS<br />|T-Type Powered|<br /><a href=\"http://www.kwfbody.com\" target=\"_blank\">Looking for a local F-Body club in K/W, Ontario, Canada?</a>

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                      • #12
                        w00t gald i could help [img]smile.gif[/img]

                        heres a plug for evan though
                        "edge converters are ruthless"


                        hrmm heres an observation for everyone

                        you can get a PI (which has proved they 0wn) for $550 from speed inc.

                        hrmm 100 bucks more then a edge hrmmmm not that expensive for a converter that has proven itself

                        [ February 06, 2003: Message edited by: Jason Morgan ]</p>

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                        • #13
                          Oh and Jason, I'm planning on getting an Edge and the reason is strictly $$$$. $700 US is too freaking much $ for me, especially after conversion to CAD.

                          So are you going to rag on me too? ;)

                          :D
                          1997 silver Camaro RS<br />|T-Type Powered|<br /><a href=\"http://www.kwfbody.com\" target=\"_blank\">Looking for a local F-Body club in K/W, Ontario, Canada?</a>

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                          • #14
                            no i want people to show me how good edge is (seriously im being serious) its all for the betterment of the v6 community


                            if someone had a cam and didnt dyno or anything to see what the gains are what the hell does that do for the community just like having a stall not wanting to run a good number but going around saying its the greatest thing since sliced bread (how he can he say that when numbers dont prove it) sliced bread is the **** too


                            da notorious DOM: i dont care if i have a manual i'm getting edge

                            [ February 06, 2003: Message edited by: Jason Morgan ]</p>

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                            • #15
                              Jason, seriously quit the buill**** already.

                              Your badmouthing evan doesn't help answer this guys question AT ALL... so just shut the hell up with that crap already.

                              Talk about Edge, talk about converters, but quit the bad mouthing.
                              Keith - Chicago<br /><a href=\"http://www.hptuners.com\" target=\"_blank\">HP Tuners - PCM Reprogramming</a><br /><a href=\"http://www.dxsoftware.com/magnus/\" target=\"_blank\">97 Firebird V6 to LS1 swap</a><br /><b>V8 9.967@132.78</b> 1.322 60\' NA Heads/Cam<br /><b>V8 10.295@128.48</b> 1.363 60\' NA Cam Only<br /><b>V8 10.987@119.31</b> 1.422 60\' NA Stock Internals<br /><b>V6 13.674@98.22</b> NA<br /><b>V6 12.394@104.91</b> N20 100HP

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