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  • 6spd Transmission from LS1??

    The LS1 uses a different bellhousing than the LT1, correct? Would it be possible to put the bellhousing from an LT1 onto a LS1 Transmission and put it in a V6 assuming that we have enough torque to power 6th gear? To make the swap possible pedals from an LS1 as well as the console would need to be used. Would the transmission need a different input shaft? Thanks for any input.
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  • #2
    First off all I don't know if you can make it an exact fit with M6. For autos, 97+ have removable bellhousings. You would still need to swap the input housing cause of the input shaft. But on M6s I can't tell you for sure. I don't know if they also came with removable bellhousings since they don't offer them on V6s.

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    • #3
      the T56 does have a removeable bellhousing.
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      • #4
        This webpage might(?) be useful:

        http://www.sallee-chevrolet.com/BorgWarner/bwt56.html
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        • #5
          Actually you would want an LT1 T56 it is the same length and bolt pattern as our bellhousings. So no custom driveshaft is needed. I think the T56 would need a new input shaft so that it would match our clutch.
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          • #6
            Ok, so we would need a LT1 T56 Tranny, Center console for a manual Trans Am, pedals from manual Trans AM, shifter boot, performance shifter, shifter knob, input shaft... What else would be needed for the swap? Thanks

            [ July 30, 2002: Message edited by: Silver3800V6FBodyKY ]</p>
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            • #7
              <blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Silver3800V6FBodyKY:
              Ok, so we would need a LT1 T56 Tranny, Center console for a manual Trans Am, pedals from manual Trans AM, shifter boot, performance shifter, shifter knob, input shaft... What else would be needed for the swap? Thanks

              [ July 30, 2002: Message edited by: Silver3800V6FBodyKY ]
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              You wouldn't need the console assuming yours is a stick or the boot or the knob. The rest you would. Make sure you get the whole clutch pedal assembly because the older T/As use a manual clutch not a hydraulic one.
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              • #8
                <blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Blue Flame V6:


                You wouldn't need the console assuming yours is a stick or the boot or the knob. The rest you would. Make sure you get the whole clutch pedal assembly because the older T/As use a manual clutch not a hydraulic one.
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                I have an A4, so I would need the console, boot, and knob.
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                • #9
                  Just an FYI before you purchase anything. I would go to a salvage yard and get some measurements from both bell housings. To my knowledge, GM does not usually use the same bell housings on V6 vs. V8 blocks.

                  Also get some measurements of the trans mount position. Those brackets will also be different.

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                  • #10
                    <blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by TealV6:
                    Just an FYI before you purchase anything. I would go to a salvage yard and get some measurements from both bell housings. To my knowledge, GM does not usually use the same bell housings on V6 vs. V8 blocks.

                    Also get some measurements of the trans mount position. Those brackets will also be different.

                    If you make some progress with this endevor, please let us know [img]smile.gif[/img]

                    Steve
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                    Blue Flame V6 said that he successfully bolted on a T-56 from a LT1 at a dealer. So the transmission will bolt up, it's just a matter of the input shaft, and mounting brackets. I'll probably get the transmission, take it to a Transmission Shop and have them prep. it up and install it.
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                    • #11
                      OK, I can get the T-56 from an LS1 for very cheap. If I did this I would need to get the bellhousing from an LT1, correct? My question is: Is the LT1 and LS1 tranny the same length, cause I don't want to have a custom driveshaft made? Anyone know for sure? Thanks
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                      • #12
                        you'll need to put the VIN from a m6 car into your pcm. Maybe just any stick VIN, m5 v6 or m6 v8. Dont forget you'll need a clutch too.

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                        • #13
                          Ok, first of all lets think here guys. The transmissions would have to be the same length for both LT1, LS1, and all V6 4th gen f-bodies otherwise an aluminum driveshaft wouldn't be interchangeable between everyone's. I would think the T-56 no matter LT1 or LS1 would swap in to ours without much modification.
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                          • #14
                            <blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by StockV6Cam:
                            Ok, first of all lets think here guys. The transmissions would have to be the same length for both LT1, LS1, and all V6 4th gen f-bodies otherwise an aluminum driveshaft wouldn't be interchangeable between everyone's. I would think the T-56 no matter LT1 or LS1 would swap in to ours without much modification.<hr></blockquote>

                            No actually they aren't the same length because of they moved the motor. That is why a LS1 crossmember won't work for a LT1.
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                            • #15
                              Well in that case, I stand corrected! :D But they must meet the driveshaft at the same spot. And in that case whoever's doing the swap shouldn't have to worry about getting a custom driveshaft.
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