Zexel Torsen “Missing Parts”

[FunkZ]

I assume the SLP paddles are designed to work with the stock Zexel bolt. So all you really need to do is figure out if your stock open differential bolt is going to work on the Zexel.

I don't know for sure. But it should only take a half-hour to find out. Jack the rear of your car up, put a pan under the differential, pull the cover off and then take that bolt out. Try your bolt in the Zexel carrier and see if it screws into place and is the proper length. It has to go the whole way across that opening and into a hole on other side.

Then just replace the bolt on your open rear, bolt the cover back in place and refill the differential. Since you're going to put new stuff in there shortly I'd just reuse the old gear oil and put in new when you get your gears installed.

[L36Camaro]

The seller FINALLY emailed me back saying he might have that pin/bolt thing that I need. So I will wait for him to find out for sure. And get this, he is kind of mad at me for asking him for the parts! WTF
BTW, I forgot to tell you, he left the Ring Gear still attached to my Torsen, could I unbolt it and sell it, or will nobody want just the Ring Gear alone? Thanks!

[FunkZ]

Ring gear has to match the pinion gear, the number of teeth and size/thickness of the gear are different between ratios.

Tell him you'll trade the ring gear for the other parts, heh.

[L36Camaro]

He said if he has the little bolt that I need he will send it to me for nothing, so I'm just going to unbolt the Ring Gear he left on here and throw it in the garage. Also, why do you think he is mad at me for asking him for parts that HE did not include?! I’m just being nice to him for now until I get what I want, then I will tell him to go f*** himself!
BTW, CONGRATS on getting your car as Featured F-Body! It looks AWESOME man! :cool:

[slow6]

I hate bastards like that
Maybe you ordered from the same guy I did.
I'd tell him to go f himself ASAP lol

[slow6]

oh yah, if ya give me the #s off the ring gear we can find out what ratio gearing that is.
if you can find #s that is

[slow6]

ya, the #s are on the outside
if it says 12:41 then its 3.42s

[L36Camaro]

The Ring Gear he left on my Torsen has 41 teeth, and is thinner than my 4.10s Ring Gear, so I think its 3.42.

Question for FunkZ, I found this info on LS1Tech.com:

(9. What is a ‘paddle’, and a paddle kit for that matter?
A paddle takes the place of an axle pin in a Torsen differential car. Instead of a thin cylinder, it is shaped like a block and is held in with an 8mm bolt. The purpose of a paddle or axle pin is keep the axles pushed outward, and thus retained with the c-clips. Sometimes when installing different gears, a paddle kit may be needed for re-installation. Depending on the brand & gear ratio of the selected gears, the ring gear may be too wide after installation to insert the paddle. SLP’s paddle kit is a two piece paddle that allows it to fit. To decide if you will need one or not, be sure to contact the sponsor from whom you are purchasing the gears.)

It says it “takes the place of an axle pin in a Torsen differential car”, what does that mean? Do I still need that bolt/pin? This is all very confusing. It also says “is held in with an 8mm bolt”, does the kit come w/ it, or do I need one? All I thought I needed was the bolt/pin thing and the SLP Paddle kit. Is that it? Is there any other parts that I need for this PITA Torsen, other than the bolt/pin thing and the SLP Paddle kit?

[slow6]

ALL you need is the
"Thrust Block"
and the "Retaining Pin" its the 8mm bolt.

Dont get c-clip eliminators as they are like $150.

seriously, just look on the side of the ring gear and tell me what the numbers are.

[FunkZ]

By axle "pin" they are talking about the odd-shaped block thing. On open and Auburn differentials it really is a pin, about the size of a hot dog, with a hole in one end for the bolt to go through.

I don't see a bolt pictured with the SLP paddle kit, so I assume it doesn't come with. I bet if you take the bolt out of your open rear though and try it it would fit in that Zexel.

[L36Camaro]

Originally posted by slow6:
seriously, just look on the side of the ring gear and tell me what the numbers are.

LOL [img]graemlins/rofl.gif[/img]

15x41 is what it says on the side. 2.73s! [img]tongue.gif[/img]

[L36Camaro]

UPDATE: Now the seller is telling me that all he has is a “Bearing Cover”, WTF?
I even sent him a picture of what I need, then he emailed me back saying “what do you need in that picture?” So I sent him the same Torsen picture AGAIN w/ what I need CIRCLED in the picture, then he emailed me AGAIN now saying that he does not know what the h*** I’m talking about! FIVE emails in a fifteen minute period, so I finally said send me whatever you have then! I haven’t been to bed yet and it’s 7 in the morning, and this guy is confusing the h** out of me! LOL What does he mean when he says he has a “Bearing Cover”? This is such a PITA!!! First this guy takes a month and a half to send me my Torsen, then it’s missing parts, and now he is ANNOYING the h*** out of me because he does not know what the h*** I’m even talking about. And get this, when I sent him the first picture of a Torsen, he said to me “that’s not the posi unit I sent you”, then I told him umm, yes it is! Is this guy really this stupid, or is he messing w/ me? :rolleyes:

[L36Camaro]

One more thing, I just looked up the part number on the side of my Torsen, and it says 9032, which means it’s a 2 Series! If I buy the Paddle Kit “4 Series Gear Adapter” from SLP I can still use my Torsen, right? Here is some info about it:
Torsen Part Number: 409160-9032 (Low Numeric)
Torsen Diff. Type: T-2
Bias Ratio: 2.1:1
Differential Size: 7.6" (7 5/8")
No. of R/G Bolt Holes: 10
No. of Splines: 28

Here’s the link to that info:
http://www.torsen.com/distributors/4091609032.htm

Here’s what SLP says about the Paddle Kit:
New from SLP Performance Parts, this modified paddle-pin kit makes it possible to install 4.10 gears in any OEM or heavy-duty 7.5/7.625" Zexel Torsen differential without grinding the ring gear or center block. SLP strongly recommends the use of this kit for all such installations.

[slow6]

if its a 2 series it might not take 4.10s
idk about that paddle kit
those paddle kit thrust blocks are what i have
i'd send it back to the ***** and get your $$ back.

[slow6]

whats his name ?