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    what's the best way to get the torque arm bracket back together underneath the car???? THe outer clamp does't want to clamp over the polybushing. I've gooped up the inside fo the clamp hoping it would slide better, but I'm jsut getting no love fromthe damn thing.
    1978 Formula 461 in progress of being built :rock:
    2013 Ram 1500 Big Horn

    former owner of 85 bird w/ 2.8 - 3.4 - 3800 II - 5.0
    94 comero 3.4

  • #2
    pry the **** out of it?

    not sure i understand what the problem is... can you not get the clam shell to close again?

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    • #3
      I'm trying to put it back on.
      1978 Formula 461 in progress of being built :rock:
      2013 Ram 1500 Big Horn

      former owner of 85 bird w/ 2.8 - 3.4 - 3800 II - 5.0
      94 comero 3.4

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      • #4
        Mine went right back on -- might have been how I had things jacked / positioned. Some people feared the TA would go thru the floorpan, but I could move it with my hand.
        <b>97 Camaro 3.8L M5</b><br />Car for sale<a href=\"http://terpmotors.com\" target=\"_blank\">terpmotors.com</a> Terrapin Motorsports! UMCP

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        • #5
          IS it in right? Does your torque arm match your car?

          I had a tranny shop do install it with a tranny rebuild.

          I broke the stock 4th gen torque arm and had a hard time getting a 3rd gen one in.

          I just tightened it slightly without the torque arm in, then beat the piss out of the other end of the torque arm till it went in and tightened the mofo down.

          I got it in but I am a little bit of a bigger guy and it took some beating and kicking I was getting worried I was gonna knock the car down.
          -Eric<br /><a href=\"http://www.cardomain.com/id/mustangeater82\" target=\"_blank\">2000 NBM V6 Camaro 5-speed</a> T-top <i>converted</i><br /><b>14.467@95.45mph</b> <i>$0 in mods</i><br /><i>The member formerly known as MustangEater8251</i>

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          • #6
            I think I used a big C-clamp to clamp the bracket over the bushing while I tightened the bolts.

            Actually, now that I think about it, I had a friend clamp the bracket halves together with a nice pair of channel-locks while I got the bolt started.

            Either way should work. Might want to play with having the car up on jackstands on the frame, and having a jack under the diff to move it up and down and get the best alignment at the bushing end.

            -Jeff
            Drivetrain Moderator - "There are no stupid questions, only stupid people!"

            2001 Pewter Firebird Y87, M5
            Intake, exhaust, just about every suspension part, alum flywheel & ds, Turn One p/s pump and cooler

            Go Sabres!

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            • #7
              I used a C-clamp a little it was hard, I used the same one you use for power window motor changes and brakes.

              It slipped ovv cuz its kinda angled...

              A set of channel locks might work.

              My way shoudl work, and I was using a 3rd gen torque arm on a 4th gen bracket. which is MUCH MUCH MUCH harder then a matching bracket and torque arm.
              -Eric<br /><a href=\"http://www.cardomain.com/id/mustangeater82\" target=\"_blank\">2000 NBM V6 Camaro 5-speed</a> T-top <i>converted</i><br /><b>14.467@95.45mph</b> <i>$0 in mods</i><br /><i>The member formerly known as MustangEater8251</i>

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              • #8
                P.S. not ot anyone with a 4th gen, if you break your torque arm, don't be lazy and settle for the $10 3rd gen one they happen to have leaning against the wall behind the first junkyard you stop at. Get and aftermarket one or find a 4th gen one. It fits but the ripples on the part where it slides into the torque arm bushing are opposite, so it the "bumps" go into each other rather in line with each other.
                -Eric<br /><a href=\"http://www.cardomain.com/id/mustangeater82\" target=\"_blank\">2000 NBM V6 Camaro 5-speed</a> T-top <i>converted</i><br /><b>14.467@95.45mph</b> <i>$0 in mods</i><br /><i>The member formerly known as MustangEater8251</i>

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                • #9
                  Anyone is welcome to my stock one!
                  <b>97 Camaro 3.8L M5</b><br />Car for sale<a href=\"http://terpmotors.com\" target=\"_blank\">terpmotors.com</a> Terrapin Motorsports! UMCP

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                  • #10
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                    to what I'm dealing with. I couldn't hold teh arm down enough while on the creeper w/the camera. THird gen arm, 4th gen bracket, energy suspension bushing.

                    Maybe I jst need another set of hands under there to help cuss.

                    btw Wicked 3800 V6, if you ever sell your bracket, iyt'll only work for other manual trannies, as I also have a 99 T/A manual bracket that was even more badder than the 85 bracket was.
                    1978 Formula 461 in progress of being built :rock:
                    2013 Ram 1500 Big Horn

                    former owner of 85 bird w/ 2.8 - 3.4 - 3800 II - 5.0
                    94 comero 3.4

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                    • #11
                      ok, I was able to get a bolt to pry between teh tunnel & the arm while I squeezed teh clamp ting together. It's on, all bolted up no prob.....

                      and one problem is replaced by another....

                      The VSS pigtail fromteh 95 harness is different than the vss sensor connector for teh 98tranny. WTF??????????

                      Now, if I make my own connector for this, does it really matter which connector the 2 wires go to????
                      1978 Formula 461 in progress of being built :rock:
                      2013 Ram 1500 Big Horn

                      former owner of 85 bird w/ 2.8 - 3.4 - 3800 II - 5.0
                      94 comero 3.4

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                      • #12
                        Is the rear end supported or is it just hanging?

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                        • #13
                          the jacks are under the controls arms, but bushing is a dead issue now. stupid electronics differences between gm years :mad: :mad: [img]graemlins/rant.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/rant.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/bs.gif[/img]
                          1978 Formula 461 in progress of being built :rock:
                          2013 Ram 1500 Big Horn

                          former owner of 85 bird w/ 2.8 - 3.4 - 3800 II - 5.0
                          94 comero 3.4

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                          • #14
                            Ok that was the issue that I dealt with 4th gen bracket and bushing... but a 3rd gen torque arm...

                            I know its fixed, but for future, does a 3rd gen bracket fit on a 4th gen tranny?

                            I don't know about the electronics, but I woudl assume the electronics should work fine... just make your own connector.
                            -Eric<br /><a href=\"http://www.cardomain.com/id/mustangeater82\" target=\"_blank\">2000 NBM V6 Camaro 5-speed</a> T-top <i>converted</i><br /><b>14.467@95.45mph</b> <i>$0 in mods</i><br /><i>The member formerly known as MustangEater8251</i>

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                            • #15
                              my 3rd gen bracket fit the 95 auto, but wouldn't fit the 98.

                              Also, the 99 manual bracket wouldn't fit either yr auto.

                              as for the vss connector..... the 95 harness has a rectangle shap to it, the 98 sensor has an oval shape to it.

                              Does it matter which wires go to which conector????


                              edit: update the motormite pigtail #85100 "coolant temperature socket" fits perfectly int he 98 VSS. Only $8 and change!!!!!!!!!!!!!! score!!!!

                              [ February 26, 2005, 08:45 PM: Message edited by: 3.4 slow to go ]
                              1978 Formula 461 in progress of being built :rock:
                              2013 Ram 1500 Big Horn

                              former owner of 85 bird w/ 2.8 - 3.4 - 3800 II - 5.0
                              94 comero 3.4

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