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**pyrokilla** · 11-05-2003, 07:21 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr>Originally posted by ianwells100:
k, this is kinda hard to explain.. but i think my clutch pedal is maybe acting a little bit funny,

it seems to be kinda 'loose' right at the top, the top 1-1.5 cm's or so, by that i mean, the weight of my foot pushes it down... kinda like it has 'play' until i push on the pedal to engage the clutch...

it has been kinda cold here recently... and the distance where the 'play' is kinda changes between .5cm to about 2cm max...

now, the clutch is fine, it only hjads 71k kms on it, and i know its fine, so i think maybe its a hydrolic clutch fluid issue, or a slight adjustment issue...

any help would be appreciated (and i know i dont have a hydrolic clutch fluid leak, as i check the level weekly)

thanks again
ian<hr></blockquote>

I have this problem too. But I think its the ****ty clutch I have....

**ianwells100** · 11-05-2003, 07:27 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr>Originally posted by pyrokilla:

I have this problem too. But I think its the ****ty clutch I have....<hr></blockquote>

this post doesn't really help here, it has nothing to do with the clutch... it is either to do with the hydrolic line, the fluid, or some adjustment that can be made to the pedal...

also, correct me if i'm wrong, but my old 95, 3.4L had a master cylinder that would push the fork (which connected to the throw out bearing), however, when i was underneath my 97 a while back, i realized that the hydrolic line went straight into the bellhousing...

**pyrokilla** · 11-05-2003, 09:02 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr>Originally posted by ianwells100:

this post doesn't really help here, it has nothing to do with the clutch... it is either to do with the hydrolic line, the fluid, or some adjustment that can be made to the pedal...

also, correct me if i'm wrong, but my old 95, 3.4L had a master cylinder that would push the fork (which connected to the throw out bearing), however, when i was underneath my 97 a while back, i realized that the hydrolic line went straight into the bellhousing...<hr></blockquote>

I also thought this. I had mine checked out by a mechanic, and he said it is the pressure plate springs, or something to that effect are weak with the brand of clutch I have...

**ianwells100** · 11-05-2003, 09:09 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr>Originally posted by pyrokilla:

I also thought this. I had mine checked out by a mechanic, and he said it is the pressure plate springs, or something to that effect are weak with the brand of clutch I have...<hr></blockquote>

do you think, or know.. 'cuz i dont think your problem is the same as mine... let me repeat myself, THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE ACTUAL CLUTCH, i dont know, nor care what type of clutch you have, mine is still stock, but as i say it is not a problem with the actual cluth assembly, it is more to do with the pedal/hydrolic lines.. so if you dont KNOW what it is, please do not post these little comments that don't really help.... read my first post, i'm asking for HELP not little side comments...

**awesomeame** · 11-05-2003, 10:13 PM

i'd drain the hydraulic fluid outta the clutch & replace it. that'll eliminate any air and/or moisture that may be in the system...start with the simple stuff.

i belive the "hydraulic fluid" that's used is just plain brake fluid. brake fluid hugely absorbs moisture & if your system isn't properly sealed you might have some moisture in it.

water compresses more than brake fluid too, so that looseness at the beginning might just be you compressing the water that's in there.

& you live in BC...it's pretty wet out there...

that's where i'd start...plz don't bite my head off for this reply :D

--matt

**pyrokilla** · 11-05-2003, 10:15 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr>Originally posted by ianwells100:

do you think, or know.. 'cuz i dont think your problem is the same as mine... let me repeat myself, THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE ACTUAL CLUTCH, i dont know, nor care what type of clutch you have, mine is still stock, but as i say it is not a problem with the actual cluth assembly, it is more to do with the pedal/hydrolic lines.. so if you dont KNOW what it is, please do not post these little comments that don't really help.... read my first post, i'm asking for HELP not little side comments...<hr></blockquote>

Well, I was trying to help, as if you do a search, months ago I posted the exact same thing as you. It was checked by 2 different mechanics, and both said the same. If your clutch is stock, thats 6 years old, and its needing to be replaced..

;)

**ianwells100** · 11-05-2003, 10:50 PM

thanks for the input awesomeame, thats what i was considering doing... its just that its bloody cold right now, and this is after torrential downpours 2 weeks ago, weird weather...

i tried getting any air out of the system, by pumping the clutch pedal with the resevior open, but thats doesn't really do much, as it has the ability to get rid of air itself, kinda... and yeah, its good old brake fluid (says so on the resevoir... that stuff seemingly has 1000 uses [img]smile.gif[/img] )

also, awesomeame, have you drained the clutch lines before? i've got ppl in the know, its just that i hope it doesn't turn into a 'take the bellhousing off' kind of a project (not my cup of tea)

thanks again for the input, awesomeame

**mrbako** · 11-05-2003, 11:00 PM

that amount of clutch play is normal...consider yourself lucky...mine is way more that that...

camaro /firebird v6's have an integrated slave/throwout unit...
the hydrolic line goes into the bellhousing so i haven't looked into how to bleed the system...that would help if it's really that bothersome.

**98Camaro3.8** · 11-06-2003, 09:50 AM

:rolleyes:

**AZ3.8Camaro** · 11-06-2003, 10:20 AM

Yes, you don't have a traditonal fork system like most cars. The hydrolic line goes right into the bellhousing and into the slave cylinder. It has been awhile since I did myu clutch, but I am pretty sure there is a screw or a bolt on the tranny you can loosen to bleed it or drain it. I would guess you need to bleed or replace the fluid.

As far as adjustment goes, I don't think the system is adjustable at all because its hydrolic, there are no cables are anything to tighten.

Replace the fluid and then bleed the system, and then let us know what happens.

**ianwells100** · 11-06-2003, 01:59 PM

AZ3.8Camaro, are you saying that i'd have to take the bellhousing off to bleed the system, 'cuz if you are, that'd suck (and probaby not happen)... is there any other way to bleed the system?

also, thanks the the top notch reply [img]smile.gif[/img]

**ianwells100** · 11-06-2003, 06:08 PM

ok, i just read my haynes manual re: bleeding the system, and it seems rather straight forward... so i guess i'll do that after midterms (or finals, if i'm lazy, which seems most likely [img]smile.gif[/img] )

if anyone would like me to write them up, say so (although everyone should have a haynes (or chilton's) manual)

peace
ian

**awesomeame** · 11-06-2003, 07:29 PM

yeh, everyone should have a haynes manual...i wouldn't bother typing it all out...but DO make some notes if you find out an easier/better way of doing something then what the haynes manual says...then post those notes :D

good luck!~

--matt

**Tyler** · 11-07-2003, 11:35 AM

lol...right above the clutch line to the slave cylinder is the bleed valve.

it takes two people..

pump the **** out of the clutch like a ****en rabbit about 10 times.. hold it down on the 10th time.. while your holding it down.. have someone under the car opening the valve.. make sure he closes it though before you let off the clutch..

its not brain surgery.. [img]graemlins/stickpoke.gif[/img] [img]graemlins/slap.gif[/img] haha these new smileys are cool

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