Wont shift into gear on a M5 2000 maro

[Shinigami]

Ok, heres the problem It wont shift into gear when started. but does when its off. When its started in gear it either dies or spins the wheels. the clutch pedel is a little lower then the brake pedel. and i cant go into gear when its on...and reverse is the only open gear but it wont fully go into it alls it does is scratch. Any ideas. its just an OEM clutch, with a turned flywheel.

[98Camaro3.8]

Clutch isn't disengaging. Could be master/slave cylinder, fluid, or could be the clutch itself. How does the clutch pedal feel when you try to disengage it?

[Shinigami]

It feels the same before replacement. We bled it ect. But i did read about something about the flywheel being a concave shape, and when i got it turned it took that concave and made it flat..is this true at all?

[Shinigami]

Let me correct that, when i get the motor going a little, it slips into gear but the pushing down the clutch at idle it wont...

[Seppo Kaitainen]

1. What did you replace? Just the clutch?

2. Any idea how much was taken off the flywheel?

It sounds as if the slave cyl is toast, or something was not put back together right.

[Shinigami]

I only replaced the clutch, and im not sure how much was taken off and the shop guy doesnt remember. How would you replace the slave cyl? and how much does one run?

[98Camaro3.8]

Originally posted by Shinigami:
How would you replace the slave cyl? and how much does one run?

You have to remove the tranny to change the slave cylinder, so the labor might cost a bit. The part itself isn't that expensive.

[Shinigami]

oh..i took off the tranny the first time...its not a difficult process its just time consuming...but how sure are you that its the slave cyl. cause i really dont wanna take it off again. by the by, what is the average tranny work for a shop?

[99v6cam]

Sounds like the slave cylinder to me too

[Seppo Kaitainen]

The slave cyl in mounted to the tranny inside the bell-housing. It hydrolicly pushes the pressure plate fingers(well there is a throwout bearing between in and the pp), to disengage the clutch.

Oh, and a tranny shop told me I would save myself 200 bones if I pulled my tranny for them to rebuild.... So maybe that helps you guestimate the cost to pay someone to do it.

[Shinigami]

UPDATE!! i have taken the tranny off again to see what the heck was going on, my new resurfaced flywheel and brand new pressure plate show slight burns, and the clutch itself is slighty worn towards the inside of the circle. more heavy burns on the flywheel though, very slight on the pressure plate. i have bought a spacer to push the flywheel out more, do you think that would help?? 4/5 tranny shops said it was resurfaced to much, and i need a spacer put in...so im really confused..please any advice will be accepted...

[Seppo Kaitainen]

If too much was taken off the flywheel the clutch will slip and/or possibly not engage. That is why I asked if you knew how much was removed from it. Not much can be taken off. I want to say its(the limit) either .015 or .020. After which you either need a spacer or a new flywheel.

[Shinigami]

yeah, the man i took it to did an under the table job for me, he was flustered with two cars and a couple flywheels, i paid him five more dollers..not much i know, to turn mine right there, so he did and he doesnt recall how much he taken off..so i got a pretty big spacer.

[Razzer]

Get a new flywheel, I got mine for 110$ out the door, decided extra material was better since I upgraded to a spec 3 clutch. Thats my cost from the dealer.