91 rs camaro m5 swap

[azrscamaro]

me and my buddy just bought a 91 rs camaro that bairly runs with an m5 and a 305 tbi he already started pulling the motor. does anyone know what that tranny is and if i can put it in my car.

[RallyRed 98]

borg warner T5.

will "fit" in your car so to speak, but you have a different bellhousing and it possibly won't be as good as the one you have now, as most of the T5s used around that model year were non-world class.

also, i'm not sure on this one but i think the V8 cars had a fine spline input shaft.

unless you have an auto and are willing to do all the work involved in that swap... why bother switching?

[azrscamaro]

i do have an auto and i am switching, the tranny is a 1352-196 which comes up as GM 1989 F-Car LO3 TBI 5.0L V8 WC does anyone know how many splines come on that tranny. Also how many splines came on the 96 3.8l 5 speed tranny will i have to get another clutch to fit my tranny what is the model # of our 95-98 ex: 1352-xxx thx

[RallyRed 98]

input: 26
output: TH350/27

# of splines is the same across all f-body T5s, but other things are different across V8 and V6 as well as older and newer T5s, mostly bolt pattern and speedo pickup.

[azrscamaro]

sorry im entirely new to manual transmissions. somone told me i could just get a new input shaft that would go in my tranny. also my tranny uses a pivoting arm to actuate the clutch, but i hear that all 95+ v6 use a hydraulic throwout bearing. is this true. if so, can i just put one of those on instead of the throwout bearing and arm system. what are the clutch performance diffrences between the two.

[RallyRed 98]

the newer T5s do in fact use a hydraulic throwout bearing.

you cannot just replace the TOB, and the pivot arm is sort of an archaic/inferior system.

i've never driven a car with an arm style system, so i can't really tell you the difference between the mechanical and hydraulic systems.

[Bud]

Originally posted by RallyRed 98:

# of splines is the same across all f-body T5s

Old thread, but I've found it 2-3 times doing a search for some other stuff.

# of splines is *not* the same across all f-body T5's.

There's a slew of threads on thirdgen.org about this (maybe even here, I haven't been searching long). The # splines might be the same from 3.8 to v8, but not from a 60* v6 (14) to v8.

Here's a thread about it just from a 2 sec search:
http://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/show...line+%2Bmanual