Automatic to manual?

[Tech]

Re: Automatic to manual?

I say go for it!! Manual transmissions are so fun!!!

[CHEVYINSIDE]

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I'll try to type something up , i'm pretty busy right now. it really wasnt that hard though .

[98FBird]

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Thanks again guys. I know of a place in town that does cryo treating and I'm looking at the gtech site. Thanks for all the good feedback

[mestupryan]

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looking at all the parts and such, was wondering 2 things; do i need both a master cylinder and a slave? i thought you already had a master cylinder for your brakes, if that was so, i would just need the slave cylinder i think?

2) it would be ok to go ahead and put in a short throw shifter and a stage 2 clutch when it gets converted? i shouldnt have any problems with that right?

thanks

[Seafarer12]

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http://www.gforcetransmissions.com

Well with their upgrades it is right at the rated capacity and for that kind of money just go buy a tremec tko.

[98FBird]

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Any word on the walkthrough? No pressure, just a friendly bump.

[tbird31]

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if you want i'm doing a LS1 swap during the summer...i'll sell you all the stuff off my T5 including my Pro 5.0 shifter for cheap...cause i won't need it.

[mestupryan]

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if you want i'm doing a LS1 swap during the summer...i'll sell you all the stuff off my T5 including my Pro 5.0 shifter for cheap...cause i won't need it.

yeah id be very interested in that, works good too because i wont be doing this until summer. are you waiting to summer to start taking it apart or are you gunna do it earlier?

[wolf]

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I have HPT, so I would need to set te PCM up for a 5 Speed.

yes, if you can do that

auto and manual pcm's have different fuel maps (specifically for 0% throttle fuel cutoff, but I'm sure there is more)

and any 94+ auto pcm will not work right without being hooked to the tranny (ether it wonk run or it'll think its in neutral and not rev past 4k)

[96birdtoo]

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Look in the classified section. I have all the stuff except the brake pedal. Even have the pcm.

[bullit70]

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here you go man i was looking to do the same thing and i found this.

AODE to T-5 Transmision Swap
1. What parts are needed?
Heres the list: 3.8 rear main seal, 3.8 pilot bearing, 3.8 dust shield, 3.8 flywheel, 3.8 bellhousing w/ballstud, 11”
clutch assy, 3.8 clutch arm, 3.8 T-5 transmission, speed sensor with speedometer gear, adjustable clutch cable, billet
clutch quadrant, clutch pedal assy, 3.8 T-5 specific computer (same model year preferred), 3.8 T-5 transmission
wiring harness, shifter, shift knob, weather shield (lower boot), shifter boot, various fasteners.
2. Do I need a T-5 computer? Yes, the computer must be swapped too. Source a computer, preferably from the
same model year.
3. How hard is it? The swap is pretty straight forward but its much easier using a lift. The hardest part is the swap
of the pedal assemblies.
4. What clutch options are there? You can use a direct replacement clutch available from Ford, or slightly better
replacement units from SPEC, RAM and others. For real performance or racing applications, the Ford stock
clutches usually prove to be inadequate. The 89-93 SuperCoupe clutch is much better, but its hydraulically released
and has other associated issues which require special shoulder bolts. The new Cobra 11 inch upgrade clutch
can be adapted to the 3.8 with some welding and grinding. However, SPEC has the best solution in its offerings of
four different clutches for varying horsepower ranges from mild to really wild (over 400 horsepower). We like
Stage 2 and 3 for most hopped up applications.
5. What flywheel options are there? We now have a race-quality SFI approved light-weight billet aluminum 11”
flywheel available that reduces the mass from 31 pounds to just 13 pounds for much quicker engine acceleration.
6. What would something like this cost? Estimate around $1200 or more for parts depending on availability. Labor
around $350-$500.
7. Why swap? For performance driving, theres no doubt that the manual is much more enjoyable. The manual
also minimizes parasitic losses in the drivetrain. For real performance, the auto needs improvements such as a
valve body type shift kit and a high stall converter matched to the output of the engine. Figure material and installation
for both at around $1100. However, if your auto has high miles and/or requires major service, the cost may
be a wash.
8. Can I modify the stock torque converter of my automatic to provide higher stall? We strongly recommend
against modification of the stock converter. Why? That’s precisely the reason we swapped our AODE to the T-5.
The Art Carr modified high stall torque converter failed catastrophically which caused very small metallic particles
to pass into the AODE, subsequently trashing it and resulting in an $800 minimum AODE repair estimate. At this
point, an $800 repair and the cost of a high stall replacement converter ($800 or so) would be as high or higher
than the T-5 swap. In other words, a no brainer…in favor of the T-5.

[mestupryan]

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wow awesome info man! but is it specifically for camaros? because they mention ford a couple times in there.

[98FBird]

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That might be for Mustangs. They also used the T5 for the same years as GM did. The principle looks the same though. Hopefully a couple of the guys on here that have done this can clarify.

[mestupryan]

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yeah, because ive heard multiple times that you dont have to change the PCM for our cars.

[Smoke Panther]

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wow awesome info man! but is it specifically for camaros? because they mention ford a couple times in there.

what? it mentioned it twice in regard to brand of clutch...anyways, Mustangs use T5 transmissions as well anyway