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    Ok, I have a 1994 Firebird A4. 130,000 miles. Please read, kinda long i know.

    My transmission has been acting funny for the last 4-6 months. I have looked into tranny shift kits but i figure it would end the life of my tranny quicker due to not being rebiuld and not being super strong to start with.

    If my engine and tranny arent completely warmed up, my transmission will sometimes shift really hard into 2nd gear, and will be a noticeable uncomfortable shift. It usually makes this happen at around 2200-2600 rpms, if i give it alittle more gas to make it shift at 3000k rpms' then it usually can make a clean shift even when its on a cold tranny and engine, from 1st to 2nd. I never have a problem with my tranny in slipping or other shifting and downshifting.(besides the fact that if i downshift and my rpms are at 1500-2000, and im coasting to slow down, my rpms will fluctuate alot and can hear it rumble alittle in my exhaust, is that normal if u know what im talking about?)

    My tranny fluid was 100% flushed with filters @ 120,000k miles with the right fluid and looks as good as it was when it was flushed. Good fluid level and pink color. When i had a shop take a look at it, they found metal in the bottom of the pan and never put a magnetic bolt or w.e back in the pan.

    My car sometimes shakes in Drive and not in nuetral or park. I have also been hearing some grinding/ticking noise coming from under the car, when car is in any gear. I have been thinking its my torque converter, but idk enough about cars, so i can only make assumtions.

    No SES lights or anything has come on, or any slipping either from gears.


    Can anyone please give me advice on how i should troubleshoot this problem, before it leads to my tranny just giving up one of these days.
    Last edited by Kronic Budz; 06-24-2007, 04:19 PM.

  • #2
    Re: Help me troubleshoot my hard shifts!!

    Next time dont get it flushed by them. You have a ceramic filter, so there is no need to change it. You may want to check your flywheel cover. Sometimes when it gets gaps, you can get corrosion, etc. inside there which could cause the grinding noise. The grinding noise is most likely from the metal heating up inside your transmission. I'm not sure, but maybe a tranny cooler would solve the problem. Hopefully someone else will chime in...
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    • #3
      Re: Help me troubleshoot my hard shifts!!

      same thing is happing to my tranny, has 134k on it. Face it, the tranny is getting old and either needs to be replaced, or rebuilt. Im swaping mine with a t-5 :)

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      • #4
        Re: Help me troubleshoot my hard shifts!!

        meaty shells, how much is that gunna cost you? I was really taking that into acount. If i was gunna pay for a rebuild of some sort or anything, i would might as well want to find a cheap M5 and then swap it. How much is that gunna cost you all together?

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        • #5
          Re: Help me troubleshoot my hard shifts!!

          I was wondering the same thing about a t5 tranny. I've just never dones omething that big, and don't really know how the manual tranny works (reguards to working on the internals, along with the master and slave cylindars etc.) 100% yet.
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          • #6
            Re: Help me troubleshoot my hard shifts!!

            yea becasue if im gunna be spending like 1500 on a rebuild for my A4, then i would rather just pull out the extra $500 or so and do a full swap for a manual 5 speed. And possibly getting one with like 50-75k on it that will be in pretty good shape, and it will be worth it in the end. If not, i think im gunna sell my car..


            Any suggestions?

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            • #7
              Re: Help me troubleshoot my hard shifts!!

              all the parts for a t-5 conversion will be cheaper then 1500 bucks.
              i spent about 1400~ on all the parts but i invested in a spec clutch a pro 5.0 shifter and some other upgraded parts.
              but if you just went with stock replacement parts. I would imagine it wouldnt cost more than 1100
              much cheaper than a rebuild or a new auto.
              as for actually swaping the tranny, i looked into it, the hardest part is putting the new pedals in.
              parts i bought...

              used t-5 /w ~30k miles 450$ shipped
              spec stage 1 clutch 314$ shipped came with new throw out bearing and pilot bearing
              pro 5.0 short shifter 180$ shipped
              stock replacement flywheel from autozone 80$
              pedal assum from manual car 20$ from junk yard
              master/slave cylinder /w clutch resavoir 148$ shipped from gmparts direct.com
              slp "L" shaped shift knob 30$
              5 spd center console shift plate 50$
              bolts and hardware 50$

              and then ill be able to sell a lot of my old parts, so it wont even cost that much
              Last edited by Meatyshells; 06-25-2007, 04:19 PM.

              Abbott long tubes,homemade true duals,slp ram air,whisper lid,eibach springs,kyb shocks,BMR subframe connectors, BMR LCA reloc brackets,BMR LCAs. T-top/manual converted

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              • #8
                Re: Help me troubleshoot my hard shifts!!

                Originally posted by Meatyshells
                all the parts for a t-5 conversion will be cheaper then 1500 bucks.
                i spent about 1400~ on all the parts but i invested in a spec clutch a pro 5.0 shifter and some other upgraded parts.
                but if you just went with stock replacement parts. I would imagine it wouldnt cost more than 1100
                much cheaper than a rebuild or a new auto.
                as for actually swaping the tranny, i looked into it, the hardest part is putting the new pedals in.
                parts i bought...

                used t-5 /w ~30k miles 450$ shipped
                spec stage 1 clutch 314$ shipped came with new throw out bearing and pilot bearing
                pro 5.0 short shifter 180$ shipped
                stock replacement flywheel from autozone 80$
                pedal assum from manual car 20$ from junk yard
                master/slave cylinder /w clutch resavoir 148$ shipped from gmparts direct.com
                slp "L" shaped shift knob 30$
                5 spd center console shift plate 50$
                bolts and hardware 50$

                and then ill be able to sell a lot of my old parts, so it wont even cost that much

                god damn!! Reading that made my head hurt alittle bit, but its good info and thanks. Well i no some things about cars and can install some iteams, but i dont think that i have the time or ability to do the swapping, and would have to resort to a mechanic if it happened. How much would it be besides the 1200 or so for parts to have that all installed?

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                • #9
                  Re: Help me troubleshoot my hard shifts!!

                  i doubt you will find a shop that will do the pedal assum and clutch mount stuff for you, but i figure about 300 to swap each tranny.

                  you would have to mount the pedals and hydralics and then drive to the shop though. which shouldnt be too hard.

                  You can drive around with m5 pedals and the clutch ready to go, then when they swap the trans you can drive home with an m5. Not too sure how you would get around the center console work though.

                  you would also need to get your pcm reflashed for a manual car or swap the pcm from a manual car, which isnt really that big of a deal

                  Abbott long tubes,homemade true duals,slp ram air,whisper lid,eibach springs,kyb shocks,BMR subframe connectors, BMR LCA reloc brackets,BMR LCAs. T-top/manual converted

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