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    I had this over on FTV6, so I figured Id share with yall as well.


    So, as most of you 93-97 Camaro guys know, our head lights sucks, and there are no after market HID kits for them. If you are to install the HID's in the headlights the light pattern is scattered, which causes empty spots of not light on the road and blinding other drivers. I decided I would go ahead and put HID's in anyways. Its amazing how much brighter they are than the halogens, but I was having problems with there being next to no light in the center of the road while driving at night. I combated this with my halogen fog lights. However, I no longer have fog lights due to my intercooler cut out, so I needed a way to fix this problem.

    So, I did a lot of reading and found out that the problem with HID's in non-projector style housings is that the light emitted from the tip of the HID bulb scatters the light pattern. This causes the light to not "bounce" off the concave light housing correctly, which leads to completely wrong light pattern. So companies started making "caps" for the tips of the HID bulbs. This stopped the light from exiting the tip of the bulb, which gave the correct lighting patter. This is why you see halogen bulb's tips have paint on them, to give the right pattern.

    I found several companies that will cap your HID's for you, but it cost about $20-50, and that makes it to where I was going to be without lights for at least a week. So I decided to cap my own bulbs and save some money and time. Here is how I did it:

    First I had to get the HID's out of the housing. When I initially installed the HID's I had to use silicon to hold them in place. So I cut away the silicon and pulled the bulbs out. Here is the bulb (sorry for the crappy pic):



    Then I took a small piece of aluminum foil:



    And wrapped it around the tip of the bulb. You must be careful when doing this. The bulb and the wire coming out of the bulb are very delicate, so try not to touch the bulb with your fingers. (once again, sorry for the crappy pic, the lighting was confusing my phone's camera)



    And both bulbs capped:



    You can see all the left over silicon from the last time these were in the housing, but I cleaned all that off before reinstalling. I also smoothed out the aluminum and made it even all the way around after taking this pic. I also put a VERY small dab of super glue on the aluminum foil where it wrapped over itself, this kept the cap in place.

    After you cap the bulbs you just put the bulbs in the housing, clamp the bulb and the housing together with a large C-clamp or any other kind of clamp, and put silicon around the base of the bulb (the black part) and the housing. Let the silicon set for 24hrs, reinstall the headlights, and you're done!

    I dont have any pics of the housing all put together, but if anyone wants I can take the housing out of the car and take a pic of it. As soon as I get the car back from the hobby shop I will also take a night pic to show the pattern. The difference from before the capping and after the capping is AMAZING! There are no light-less spots and the patter has a nice cut off (not like a projector, but like the halogens had). They are still just as bright as they were before, but you can see so much more now that they project right.

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    Re: HIDs for you 1993-1997 Camaro

    And here are the results:

    Low Beams only





    I will be getting 6000k fogs here soon as well.

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    • #3
      Re: HIDs for you 1993-1997 Camaro

      Niceee, I'm assuming those are 6000k HIDS in your lows?
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      • #4
        Re: HIDs for you 1993-1997 Camaro

        I'm looking for HIDs, where did you buy yours from? nice stripes btw ;)
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        1997 Camaro 30th 'vert... GT1 cam/C6 wheels/Flowmaster/HIDs/Viper 2 way alarm/Alpine audio mods up the wazoo
        2005 Equinox LT... mostly stock daily/Thule snowsports roof system/sound + interior mods

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        • #5
          Re: HIDs for you 1993-1997 Camaro

          Originally posted by truekoa View Post
          Niceee, I'm assuming those are 6000k HIDS in your lows?
          Yes, lows are 6000k, fogs will also be 6000k here in a week or so. It is pointless to have HID highs because HIDs are supposed to stay on for at least 5 seconds, so flashing HIDs is pretty bad for them.
          Originally posted by 1997Canadian3.8 View Post
          I'm looking for HIDs, where did you buy yours from? nice stripes btw ;)
          I got that set from HIDNY.com. That is their slim ballast kit, they warm up much faster than the standard ballast, and the ballast can mount just behind the headlights where they still get lots of air. The fogs, though, I will be getting from DDMtuning.com becaues they are cheaper there.

          And thanks! I like them as well :D

          For the record the lows are type 9006 and the fogs are 880's.

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          • #6
            Re: HIDs for you 1993-1997 Camaro

            Considering the amount of light 8+ feet above the ground on those trees with just your low beams on, you can't tell me those aren't still blinding oncoming traffic.


            I'd like to see more pictures of the beam pattern, particularly on a wall. I'm not convinced those are any more safe than the next guy that threw HIDs in a halogen housing.
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            • #7
              Re: HIDs for you 1993-1997 Camaro

              Ive never had a car flash their brights at me, or any of my friends complain :shrug:

              And yes, compared to before the caps this is much better. Im actually thinking about taking a set of stock fog lights and putting the headlight lenses on them and running them as the low beams. Our fog lights came with built in "caps" (if you will) that should make the HID beam pattern just like the halogen. This is the problem to begin with, the tip of the HIDs refract the light wrong, hence why caps HELP. So the build in caps should make the light pattern correct, I will see when I swap HIDs in my fogs, and if they work well I will get another set and swap the lenses and run them where my lows are.

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              • #8
                Re: HIDs for you 1993-1997 Camaro

                While I still don't agree with putting HIDs in any halogen housing, I think the beam pattern of the stock fog lights are more suited for HID than our headlights. The headlights are almost like flashlights with a hot spot and tons of lost light, whereas the foglights are wider and lower, with a more defined "cutoff." Still not great, but probably better.
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                • #9
                  Re: HIDs for you 1993-1997 Camaro

                  the H4 high/low bulbs may be something to think about too. they come with the caps.

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                  • #10
                    Re: HIDs for you 1993-1997 Camaro

                    does anyone make a plug and play HID setup for the 93-97 light housing?

                    I'm getting frustrated.

                    I realize HID in stock housings will send light everywhere. So capping the bulbs and putting them in the stock light housing will be fine?

                    So I buy the kit from DDM tuning and go about installing them in the stock housing?
                    Which kit should I buy?

                    I need a winter project anyway..... :tup:
                    In America's Hat!

                    1997 Camaro 30th 'vert... GT1 cam/C6 wheels/Flowmaster/HIDs/Viper 2 way alarm/Alpine audio mods up the wazoo
                    2005 Equinox LT... mostly stock daily/Thule snowsports roof system/sound + interior mods

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                    • #11
                      Re: HIDs for you 1993-1997 Camaro

                      Originally posted by 1997Canadian3.8 View Post
                      So capping the bulbs and putting them in the stock light housing will be fine?

                      So I buy the kit from DDM tuning and go about installing them in the stock housing?
                      Which kit should I buy?

                      I need a winter project anyway..... :tup:
                      That's what this guy did.

                      But you say you want a project. So why not do it the right way, with a projector? Or go to a whole different housing? Based on the pictures provided, I can safely say that my Hella FF75's do a better job lighting up the road than the stock housings with HIDs and caps, at a similar cost. I'm running both HID projectors in my fogs and Hella FF75 with halogens, and while it may be a bit overkill, it's not blinding to other drivers and lights up the road like nothing I've experienced before.

                      http://forum.camarov6.com/showthread...ght=hella+ff75
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                      • #12
                        Re: HIDs for you 1993-1997 Camaro

                        projector really is the way to go. But i do believe they are capped also. On the firebirds anyways. I just got mine in, once i get the car back on the road i will take pictures

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                        • #13
                          Re: HIDs for you 1993-1997 Camaro

                          Originally posted by TheGr8Schlotzky View Post
                          That's what this guy did.

                          But you say you want a project. So why not do it the right way, with a projector? Or go to a whole different housing? Based on the pictures provided, I can safely say that my Hella FF75's do a better job lighting up the road than the stock housings with HIDs and caps, at a similar cost. I'm running both HID projectors in my fogs and Hella FF75 with halogens, and while it may be a bit overkill, it's not blinding to other drivers and lights up the road like nothing I've experienced before.

                          http://forum.camarov6.com/showthread...ght=hella+ff75
                          You're right; However, I do want to keep the stock look. Guess I'm stuck. Which Kit should I order?
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                          1997 Camaro 30th 'vert... GT1 cam/C6 wheels/Flowmaster/HIDs/Viper 2 way alarm/Alpine audio mods up the wazoo
                          2005 Equinox LT... mostly stock daily/Thule snowsports roof system/sound + interior mods

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                          • #14
                            Re: HIDs for you 1993-1997 Camaro

                            Just get the 9006 slim ballast kit for $40. Im still working on getting another set of stock fogs to put in the low beam's place, just swap out the lenses. I have a set of HID's on the way for my fogs as well. Im really not a fan of the Hella FF75's, I much prefer the look of the stock head lights, and the round projectors on our cars are fugly. Im trying to get all of this to work right, and Im really thinking the fogs where the low beams are will be the best option.

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                            • #15
                              Re: HIDs for you 1993-1997 Camaro

                              While the FF75s are love hate, and I agree that projectors in place of the headlights looks awful, I personally don't feel that a round projector in place of the fog lights only affects the look of the car much at all, especially when mounted behind some sort of grill. That way, you can get all the benefits of HID with a proper projector housing without changing the style of the front end much at all.

                              i.e.: http://forum.camarov6.com/showpost.p...1&postcount=26
                              Last edited by TheGr8Schlotzky; 01-03-2011, 04:30 PM.
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