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    Hello all, my passenger side headlight does not like to pop up. This is intermittent. There are no grinding or clicking noises that would indicate a stripped gear. What will happen is when I turn the lights on (usually the first time) the light will not come up. So I turn the lights off, then on again. It will either come up then, or I may have to turn the headlights off and then on a couple of times. Once it comes up, it's fine, and will go back down without issue.

    I was thinking the arm needed some grease, so I did that. but it does not help. Does this sound like a gear issue? Has anyone else had this specific problem?
    2002 Silver Firebird A4<br />T-Tops, Leather, Y87, W68, Chrome Wheels<br />Bone Stock

  • #2
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    I actually had this problem with a weak battery. Bought a fresh battery and they pop up now without fuss.

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    • #3
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      Check the headlight fuse, may need replacement. Motor could be going. Could be a kink in the arm like you mentioned. Hard to say, but check the fuse first, even if it looks ok.

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      • #4
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        Always easy to disconnect the arm, turn the motor halfway over and reconnect the arm to use the other side of the gear in the motor. Seems like when my stock gears stripped it didn't always make noise. Even if they're fine its a 5 minute job to prove thats not it for sure.

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        • #5
          Re: Headlight Issue

          OK thanks for the tips I will check on these.

          Regarding disconnecting the arm, I see there is a nut holding it on. Does the nut come off easily? Or will wrenching the nut cause the motor to try and turn? Do I need a backup wrench? Also, it's pretty tight in there. Is it easier to access from underneath?
          2002 Silver Firebird A4<br />T-Tops, Leather, Y87, W68, Chrome Wheels<br />Bone Stock

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          • #6
            Re: Headlight Issue

            Check the headlight control module..I believe it's right next to the fuse box under the hood. I was having a similar problem, and sometimes the headlights would pop up on their own while I was driving. I made a bypass wire and switch to go around it, but when I finally went to replace the module, I noticed it wasn't pushed down all the way. Somehow it had worked itself loose and wasn't getting a good connection or something. I pushed it all the way down again and my headlights have been working perfectly since. This was about a year ago when it happened to me. Maybe mine was a freak deal, but it's something else to check off your list..
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            Chaddrich Freed

            (1 of 443) 2002 SLP Firebird GT #107 (244rwhp/254rwtq naturally aspirated)
            2008 Silverado Crew Cab 5.3L 4x4

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            • #7
              Re: Headlight Issue

              Great, thanks. These all seem like simple checks.
              2002 Silver Firebird A4<br />T-Tops, Leather, Y87, W68, Chrome Wheels<br />Bone Stock

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              • #8
                Re: Headlight Issue

                Check the plug from the car to the motor/ headlights. They have corrosion problems and cause intermittent headlight motor issues. The plug is under the headlight assembly.
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                • #9
                  Re: Headlight Issue

                  Originally posted by Rob Bell View Post
                  OK thanks for the tips I will check on these.

                  Regarding disconnecting the arm, I see there is a nut holding it on. Does the nut come off easily? Or will wrenching the nut cause the motor to try and turn? Do I need a backup wrench? Also, it's pretty tight in there. Is it easier to access from underneath?
                  I think its not too bad to get the nut off. There is a stop on the arm that you can wedge something in to keep the motor from turning if it tries to turn too much. And its super tight in there but I never had any luck except from the top.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Headlight Issue

                    OK well I had not checked anything yet because I was busy. It must be a stripped gear because tonight it made the "stripped gear noise" when the light went down. But now that I know what it is, I'll try switching the motor around and see how that works.
                    2002 Silver Firebird A4<br />T-Tops, Leather, Y87, W68, Chrome Wheels<br />Bone Stock

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                    • #11
                      Re: Headlight Issue

                      Originally posted by dgreet77 View Post
                      Always easy to disconnect the arm, turn the motor halfway over and reconnect the arm to use the other side of the gear in the motor. Seems like when my stock gears stripped it didn't always make noise. Even if they're fine its a 5 minute job to prove thats not it for sure.
                      So when you say "turn the motor halfway over" do you mean turning the whole motor assembly 180 degrees and then reinstalling it? Or do you mean rotating the shaft 180 degrees and then putting the motor assembly back in the original position?
                      2002 Silver Firebird A4<br />T-Tops, Leather, Y87, W68, Chrome Wheels<br />Bone Stock

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                      • #12
                        Re: Headlight Issue

                        I've had this problem twice before. Its caused by either too much resistance in the down position which automatically triggers the circuit breaker, or corrosion. You need to check the plug and clean or replace the socket.
                        1997 Camaro RS W/T-Tops<br />All Stock / 200 HP

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                        • #13
                          Re: Headlight Issue

                          OK I did some searching and found that you rotate the shaft 180 degrees, not the motor.
                          2002 Silver Firebird A4<br />T-Tops, Leather, Y87, W68, Chrome Wheels<br />Bone Stock

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                          • #14
                            Re: Headlight Issue

                            Yeah, just spin the top of the motor. Sorry for the late reply.

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                            • #15
                              Re: Headlight Issue

                              Well I tried messing around with it for over an hour and just could not get it to work. I'm ordering the metal gears and just doing the permanent fix and be done with it. That geinding noise and headlights going up and down every time I lock the car sure is embarrasing!
                              2002 Silver Firebird A4<br />T-Tops, Leather, Y87, W68, Chrome Wheels<br />Bone Stock

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