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    At home, I have a set of 6x9's and a set of 4x6's that came out of my Blazer. They're good speakers (Pioneer 4 way and 2 way, respectively), but they've been just sitting there the past few years since I got the Camaro and got rid of the Blazer. I got the idea the other day to put one of each (one 6x9 and one 4x6) into a box (making 2 boxes total) and just using them as a rear chanel on my stereo in my room. I've got 2 questions about this, though.

    1. I know that different subs work best with different size boxes and so assume that other speakers work the same. About how big should I make these boxes and should I try to have a divider between the 4x6 and 6x9 side so the airflow between them doesn't harm the sound any?

    2. I believe both sets are 8 ohm speakers, or whatever the normal resistance for aftermarket speakers is (I can't look now since I'm at college and they're in my closet at home). If I hook the two speakers in a given box in series, it'll make the combination 16 ohm (sounds very high to me) and if I put them in parallel it will make the combination 4 ohm (sounds low but do-able). Would I risk damaging my amp (not a car amp, one for a normal stereo) by having one of these two (or both) setups hooked up to a rear channel and my front speakers being different (I don't know what they are)? Basically, is this something that will actually work or no?

    Rob

    [ January 28, 2004: Message edited by: Rob@USC ]</p>
    <b>2002 Pewter v6 Camaro</b><br />T-tops, Auto, stock GFX<br />mods: SSRA, Whisper lid, K&N filter, Borla cat-back, Pioneer HU, RF 6.5\" speakers, billet grill, clear corners, red tubing under hood, black CAMARO fill-in\'s, QTEC, GM power antenna, fan switch

  • #2
    Nearly all aftermarket speakers (except subs) are 4 ohms. It's become the standard. Most home amps like to run at 8 ohms, so wire them in series and you should be good to go. And yes, a divider is going to be a must. I wouldn't worry about the box size too much. Just make them a resonable size. [img]graemlins/thumbsup.gif[/img]
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    • #3
      Awesome, looks like I have a new project next time I go home. :D
      <b>2002 Pewter v6 Camaro</b><br />T-tops, Auto, stock GFX<br />mods: SSRA, Whisper lid, K&N filter, Borla cat-back, Pioneer HU, RF 6.5\" speakers, billet grill, clear corners, red tubing under hood, black CAMARO fill-in\'s, QTEC, GM power antenna, fan switch

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      • #4
        The box depends entirely on what kind of sound you want from them.

        Do you want an extended low-end response with a sacrifice or tonal quality throughout the mids? 1.25cu.ft. Ported box with a 3" long 3" diameter port.

        Do you want smooth response throughout the entire frequency range with a sacrifice of SPL and less low-end extension? Sealed box ~ .75cu. ft.

        That's for the 6x9"s. Seal off the other drivers in a .75cu.ft. sealed box only.
        1997 Camaro 30th Anniversary...M5, chrome 16\" 5-stars Goodyear 245/50R16<p><a href=\"http://members.cardomain.com/issycamaroman\" target=\"_blank\">http://members.cardomain.com/issycamaroman</a>

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        • #5
          .75 cu. ft. for the 4x6's? sounds kinda big, but okay. now comes time to figure out dimensions...
          <b>2002 Pewter v6 Camaro</b><br />T-tops, Auto, stock GFX<br />mods: SSRA, Whisper lid, K&N filter, Borla cat-back, Pioneer HU, RF 6.5\" speakers, billet grill, clear corners, red tubing under hood, black CAMARO fill-in\'s, QTEC, GM power antenna, fan switch

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          • #6
            <blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by youngcamarokid:
            Do you want an extended low-end response with a sacrifice or tonal quality throughout the mids? 1.25cu.ft. Ported box with a 3" long 3" diameter port.

            Do you want smooth response throughout the entire frequency range with a sacrifice of SPL and less low-end extension? Sealed box ~ .75cu. ft.
            <hr></blockquote>
            Where did you get those numbers from?
            Red 96' A4 Firebird
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            • #7
              Well, I was playing with some designes and numbers and came up with a section for 6x9 that's going to be ~1.26 cu. ft. and the part for the 4x6's are going to be ~0.30 cu. ft. These numbers sound okay? Just wondering because the boxes you get for 6x9's from crutchfield (little trapazoidal shaped thingies) are about 1/3 cu. ft. I plan to stuff the boxes with some polyfill (I think it's called that - the sound deadening material). I know not many people would make a box for that small of speakers, but do those numbers sound okay for sizing?

              Rob

              P.S.
              I can't find the grills for the speakers (I think they may have been thrown away) and I don't want to pay for replacement ones from pioneer. I was thinking about just covering the entire front of the boxes with that stretchy, meshy, cloth found on home speakers. Does anyone know where I can find that cloth that covers speakers? Maybe a fabric shop?

              very side note: wow, I must be more tired than I think if I'm describing things like I just did in this post [img]tongue.gif[/img] ...time for bed
              <b>2002 Pewter v6 Camaro</b><br />T-tops, Auto, stock GFX<br />mods: SSRA, Whisper lid, K&N filter, Borla cat-back, Pioneer HU, RF 6.5\" speakers, billet grill, clear corners, red tubing under hood, black CAMARO fill-in\'s, QTEC, GM power antenna, fan switch

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              • #8
                1.25 cubes for a single 6x9?!?!! That sounds a wee bit large. You could cut that in HALF and be ok. Why even cover them? You have people kicking and poking around in your house?
                Red 96' A4 Firebird
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                • #9
                  <blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Rob@USC:
                  Well, I was playing with some designes and numbers and came up with a section for 6x9 that's going to be ~1.26 cu. ft. and the part for the 4x6's are going to be ~0.30 cu. ft. These numbers sound okay? Just wondering because the boxes you get for 6x9's from crutchfield (little trapazoidal shaped thingies) are about 1/3 cu. ft. I plan to stuff the boxes with some polyfill (I think it's called that - the sound deadening material). I know not many people would make a box for that small of speakers, but do those numbers sound okay for sizing?
                  <hr></blockquote>

                  Is that sealed or ported?? I'm assuming from the size that it's ported....that's WAY too big for a sealed box.

                  The numbers I posted earlier are personal experience.

                  You think I'm crazy....I have a single 6.5" mid in a 1.25cu.ft. sealed box.... May sound wrong to you, but I've been doing this a long time, and quite a bit in that amount of time.
                  1997 Camaro 30th Anniversary...M5, chrome 16\" 5-stars Goodyear 245/50R16<p><a href=\"http://members.cardomain.com/issycamaroman\" target=\"_blank\">http://members.cardomain.com/issycamaroman</a>

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                  • #10
                    actually guys since those speakers are meant for car audio, they will work best in a free air application.

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