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When you guys are thinking about car audio and wanting to compile a great system, do your homework, ask around and you will find that Kicker is the best! If it isn't, why does it hold the world record as we speak? Last fall, Alma Gates, aka "Gates Team" and her Ford Bronco packing 48 ZR1000s and 48 10" Solo Barics burped an exploding 171.8 db causing the back window to blow out. Now that's what I call POWER! [img]graemlins/omg.gif[/img]
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If you mean SPL when you say best, then yeah Kicker has some really good stuff. Kicker is just about king of "loud."
But for some of us SQ is the most important thing when designing a system for our cars. Who cares if you can produce 171.8db, anything above about 160db is past the pain threshold.
Eclipse is best in my opinion, and others on this board like Alpine, Kenwood, Soundstream, PPI, and others. Just because it's louder doesn't make it "better."<b><i>1999 Pewter Trans Am M6 - Stock for now...<br />296.6 RWHP and 310.6 RWTQ</i></b> -<i>SOLD</i><p><i>\"There are vast amounts of money to be made in the sevice of the Lord!\"</i><br /><i>1994 Green Camaro M5 - <b>SOLD</b></i><p><br /><b><i>Associate of VENOM-VI</i></b> -
There is a lot more involved in those competition vehicles than buying a bunch of subs, tossing them in boxes and lettin' 'em rip!! I am not suggesting that Kicker isn't good stuff, but a generalized statement referencing on extremely high dollar install doesn't really mean its the best. And as the Reverend stated, just because they can go loud doesn't necessarily mean they can make an great sounding system.
But her vehicles are quite impressive :DComment
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Point taken! I guess I should have mentioned the awesome clarity the Kicker components produce. I haven't heard anything like it besides MBQuart. Yes, Kicker is the king of "Loud" and it's also the king of "Clarity". Just thought I'd share my opinion... My store address is www.trafficjamzcaraudio.com, look me up... ;)\'97 Red Camaro V6 3.8<br />I love my bottle baby! She\'s a labor of love with lots of goodies.<br />Best Time: 1/8 9.0, 60ft 2.197<br />You go girl!Comment
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now back to our regularly scheduled program....Mike<br />\'99 Z28 LS1 (383 in the works) M6<br /><a href=\"http://members.fbody.com/drmilhouse/\" target=\"_blank\">stereo pics</a> Almost sold, the amps are still for sale - make an offer.<br /><a href=\"http://members.fbody.com/drmilhouse/paypal.html\" target=\"_blank\">Help Mike pay for his engine. Every dollar helps!</a>Comment
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Their componets are king? I disagree, you pay so much for those dual mags or any others, and they are not automatically great sounding. And as fara s Alma Gates goes, a guy from here in Lubbock, Michael Jones, has gone way above 171dB, with less than half her equipment. He uses DD subs, and crossfire amps if I rememeber right. There are other classes than the ONE that Alma Gates competes in. Kicker is great, but there is always better.<a href=\"http://www.fullthrottlev6.com\" target=\"_blank\">www.fullthrottlev6.com</a> THE SOURCE!Comment
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<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Reverend_Ezekiel:
If you mean SPL when you say best, then yeah Kicker has some really good stuff. Kicker is just about king of "loud."
But for some of us SQ is the most important thing when designing a system for our cars. Who cares if you can produce 171.8db, anything above about 160db is past the pain threshold.
Eclipse is best in my opinion, and others on this board like Alpine, Kenwood, Soundstream, PPI, and others. Just because it's louder doesn't make it "better."<hr></blockquote>
Once again, the Rev speaks it true. It only took me about 20 years of loud systems to figure out that sq is better. My home system is amazingly clear and high quality, and my car stereo is getting there, it still has a long way to go though. I don't want people to feel me coming from 4 blocks away, I will only accept clarity now. Being 38, I am trying to save what little is left of my hearing. I don't want a system that will cause blood to drip from my ears.
Of course that is just my opinion.
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Who doesn't love clarity? I myself am concerned about hearing. There are other brands out there, and each person holds his own ideas on which is the best. I've heard entire systems with Boston Acoustics, MB Quarts, Infinity, Kicker, Eclipse, Alpine, and all the best. I've heard systems with mixed name brands, and I personally think that most of these brands have their ups and downs. Some have tweeters that produce crisp highs, some tinny highs, some rich mids and midbass, some less than others. They're all the best, it's up to the listener to deside which they like best. I like Kicker, they make some of the best. I'll always have a soft spot for ZR amps...Massivefirebird\'s <a href=\"http://www.cardomain.com/id/leondb\" target=\"_blank\">(leonDB) Cardomain</a><br /><a href=\"http://www.flowmastermufflers.com/cgi-bin/flowmaster\" target=\"_blank\"> Flowmaster 80</a>, <a href=\"http://www.knfilters.com/\" target=\"_blank\"> K&N FIPK</a>, <a href=\"http://www.jetchip.com/\" target=\"_blank\"> Jet Stage 2 & 180º T/S</a>, <a href=\"http://www.boschusa.com/AutoParts/SparkPlugs/PlatinumPlus4/\" target=\"_blank\"> Bosch quads</a>, <a href=\"http://www.pilotautomotive.com/pilot2dn.htm\" target=\"_blank\"> Pilot 1055 Fogs</a>, <a href=\"http://makotoautotrends.com/\" target=\"_blank\">Clear turn signals</a>, <a href=\"http://www.autoventshade.com/\" target=\"_blank\">AVS rear blackouts</a>... <a href=\"http://www.massiveaudio.com\" target=\"_blank\">2 Massive CW 12\'s</a>, <a href=\"http://www.kicker.com\" target=\"_blank\">Kicker 2252, 652,& 352 XI Amps</a>, <a href=\"http://www.mbquart.com/2003/en_US/home/\" target=\"_blank\">MB Quart</a>.Comment
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<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by StarsCamaro:
If it isn't, why does it hold the world record as we speak?<hr></blockquote>
They don't. I'm not sure who hold's the world record right this second but Michael Hughes has burped a 174.6 in 2001 and I believe is above 175 this year. He uses DD.
http://www.termpro.com/asp/competito...etitor_ID=9610
[ February 25, 2002: Message edited by: 96firebird311 ]</p>Comment
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I'm almost certain you are speaking of Michael Jones from Lubbock.<a href=\"http://www.fullthrottlev6.com\" target=\"_blank\">www.fullthrottlev6.com</a> THE SOURCE!Comment
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Yeah Mike Jones at Custom Sound in Lubbock holds the record as far as I know... He Does great work, Uses DD and Crossfire....99 3800 NBM Camaro - (Xcessive Xcelleration Racing Team)<br />Ram/Cold Air Induction (custom)<br />Modified 4l60e Valve Body<br />Z28 Catback<br />SS Hood <br />Modified 99 GM 3800II <br />JB Performance Engineering<br />jfbperformance@cox.netComment
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Really, SPL setups get old in everyday driver cars quick. SQ all the way. I perticually like image dynamic's stuff. Everyone has opinions. What sounds good to you and how much do you wanna spend?<b>Matt</b><br /><a href=\"http://www.cardomain.com/member_pages/view_page.pl?page_id=377225&page=1\" target=\"_blank\">\'96 Camaro Z28 M6</a><br /><a href=\"http://www.cardomain.com/member_pages/view_page.pl?page_id=377225&page=3\" target=\"_blank\">\'96 Camaro M5</a>Comment
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Actually, his final this year was 174.4 at the db drag. Great van. It's so loud! [img]graemlins/burnout.gif[/img]Teal 94 Camaro 3.4 Liter<br />Transgo stage 3 shiftkit, Shift module, corvette servo, SLP cold air induction,3.42 ring and pinion, Heavy Duty Posi LSD, Flowmaster exhaust, NX, blackoutsComment
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i like my 146 with 2 10" subs thats very clear...i think anyhting that high i useless for everyday listening just good for comps. i also prefer DD subs as ive learned the hard way what wattage does to subs that cant handle it
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<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by OneQuickV6:
I'm almost certain you are speaking of Michael Jones from Lubbock.<hr></blockquote>
You guys could be right, but how come on the link to term pro it says Michael Hughes?? And scroll down the page and look at the stats for 2002... there up over 175...
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