2000 bonneville supercharger on 2000 bird

[kdm212]

title says it all. if it works what do i need? how difficult a process is it? please help. found a sc at a decent price and would like to jump on it!

[Watazz]

Re: 2000 bonneville supercharger on 2000 bird

Point is this kind of build is alot of work and is not worth the gains. The intake would be pointing towards the firewall. And i dont think that our heads are compatable. Plus the supercharged bonnevilles and grand prixs only had like what 240hp?

[97rs4life]

Re: 2000 bonneville supercharger on 2000 bird

please search, can be done if you own a machine shop or a buddy owns one and you have some fabbing skills, gains are not worth it when compared to a procharger or turbo.

[kdm212]

Re: 2000 bonneville supercharger on 2000 bird

sucks...i had a decent deal. $450 not too shabby right?

[97rs4life]

Re: 2000 bonneville supercharger on 2000 bird

sucks...i had a decent deal. $450 not too shabby right?

actually that is high for an m90. lol. I have seen them for $150-300

[kdm212]

Re: 2000 bonneville supercharger on 2000 bird

soooo hypothetically if i were able to get it at the $150 price. its still not really worth it? too much work?

[Fondle]

Re: 2000 bonneville supercharger on 2000 bird

pretty much, the amount of fab that needs to be done to make it function properly is not worth it

[97rs4life]

Re: 2000 bonneville supercharger on 2000 bird

soooo hypothetically if i were able to get it at the $150 price. its still not really worth it? too much work?

if you own a machine shop or have a friend that can get you a deal on the fab work, then by all means tackle it. Just understand for 99% of people this isn't an option

[Watazz]

Re: 2000 bonneville supercharger on 2000 bird

just save yourself the research time and go with the powerdyne if you are looking for a supercharger. If you really dont care and just want power go turbo.

[kdm212]

Re: 2000 bonneville supercharger on 2000 bird

powerdyne vs turbo. pros vs cons. whats more cost effective and essentially easier?

[whitdog54]

Re: 2000 bonneville supercharger on 2000 bird

just save yourself the research time and go with the powerdyne if you are looking for a supercharger. If you really dont care and just want power go turbo.

its very rare to come across a powerdyne, nvm a complete powerdyne kit.

Turbo-will require some fab work as well, but its been done by many people. All of the parts are available just need a little skill to make them work.

[kdm212]

Re: 2000 bonneville supercharger on 2000 bird

its very rare to come across a powerdyne, nvm a complete powerdyne kit.

Turbo-will require some fab work as well, but its been done by many people. All of the parts are available just need a little skill to make them work.

whats needed? whats the cost? anyone ever post a how to on this? i mean they have how to's on an ls1 swap im sure they would have it on turbo setup...right?

whats the gain 50 or more rwhp? or less?

[97rs4life]

Re: 2000 bonneville supercharger on 2000 bird

its very rare to come across a powerdyne, nvm a complete powerdyne kit.

Turbo-will require some fab work as well, but its been done by many people. All of the parts are available just need a little skill to make them work.

Not really that rare. Every couple months there is a powerdyne kit going up for sale. There are also a couple headunits right now on ebay. Or scanning other forums will bring some up as well.

whats needed? whats the cost? anyone ever post a how to on this? i mean they have how to's on an ls1 swap im sure they would have it on turbo setup...right?

whats the gain 50 or more rwhp? or less?

cost and ease of install goes to powerdyne kits. power levels/performance goes to turbos. There are threads upon threads of people making their own kits with pics. Just have to do some searching here and on fullthrottlev6.com for different ideas of turbo kits. Or if you want, you can spend the big bucks and buy a cartuning turbo kit or a zzperformance turbo kit but you will lose your AC with either of them.

[shiznizzal24]

Re: 2000 bonneville supercharger on 2000 bird

Point is this kind of build is alot of work and is not worth the gains. The intake would be pointing towards the firewall. And i dont think that our heads are compatable. Plus the supercharged bonnevilles and grand prixs only had like what 240hp?

Right all N/A cars have the injector bosses in the LIM, the supercharged injector bosses are in the heads. Also all the accesories and other things are different.

powerdyne vs turbo. pros vs cons. whats more cost effective and essentially easier?

You want high HP your gonna have to work for it. Powerdyne isn't as common as the turbo. Turbo is the preferred way (IMO, not that Im biased or anything) The turbo will take some fab work and you may have to sacrifice the AC. Unless you buy a kit then the fab work wont be as bad but the AC may still need to be deleted. Now the kits available are few, only three to my knowledge:
1.Cartuning
2.ZZPerformance
3.FFF
(maybe find a used one every once and a while.)
As for costs you gotta pay to play. Turbo or Powerdyne wont be cheap. Nothing will be easy :) (Not that I know from personal experience)

whats needed? whats the cost? anyone ever post a how to on this? i mean they have how to's on an ls1 swap im sure they would have it on turbo setup...right?

whats the gain 50 or more rwhp? or less?

Lol search is your friend. I have started a write up, its going very slow im starting at the very base. I am currently working on the motor. Its being built as time progresses and I slowly get money I will continue with the updates. Trying to get a decent write up. There are several members on here that have turbo setups. They will probably chime in soon. You can pm them for more info. Net gains can be 50rwhp or tons more. All depends on tuning and the research that goes into the build. I'm aiming for 450rwhp with my build. Thats about 280hp increase at the wheel. But again this build is taking time, and lots of it.....as well as cash. But I have the luck of having several people on this forum I can talk to and get help from. If you wanted to start a turbo build by al means do it :) Theres hundreds of ways to do it. Just remember theres a lot of info that goes into a turbo or any forced induction setup. Yes you can turbo a stock L36. As for max boost I am not sure, but I have seen someone run turbo on an all stock L36 and they ran in the 12's or 11's can't remember exactly. But once you get to high boost if your running too much on too high of compression you'll blow a head gasket. You also have to remember the turbo size you wnat for your goal. Just trying to share my knowledge, not trying to discourage you in anyway. Goodluck

[ssms5411]

Re: 2000 bonneville supercharger on 2000 bird

I had a powerdyne years ago put about $4500 into it with mods , maxed dyno was 288 WRHP and 330 TQ with built engine 8-10LBS of boost, VS cam and M5. But after 3-4 runs it would dyno about 235 WRHP and 250 TQ ,so once its heated up the HP went down, intercooler puts too much stress on the internals and methnanol would be the best choice but never got no #'s with it on the dyno. Doing a under K turbo build with a GT35R turbo big intercooler with all new parts and some extras which cost about $4000-$4500 total and expect 400-450 Wrhp with 10-12 PSI ,so I think a turbo kit would be much nicer plus you can have a boost controller to turn it down for hot summers ,so you don't have KR. Plus I got a progessive Methanol Kit to run more boost during hot summers. So to sum it up I have had the Powerdyne, nitrous and now going with a turbo and so far I would go turbo over both just reading up on it, but I will find out once everything is hooked up.