6 turbos in a v6??

[LETZRIDE]

Yes I hit my head a number of times off the car this week, so forgive me if this sounds far fetched.

But, I should be back to building the itb kit shortly (almost done with the second car) and I was thinking...what if you ran 6 turbos on our cars?

I.e. 1 turbo per cylinder, so you would need custom headers running each cylinder to each turbo, each turbo would plug into an ITB.

Now I am not talking big turbos...small ones, like I dont know, something found on a scooter or bike or something...something small and relatively inexpensive.

A) it should theoretically get rid of any lag?
B) if you only ran 2-3 psi per cylinder would it be like running 2-3psi x 6, so like 12-18 psi totalish?

Can anyone see an issue with this? or running this type of setup? We have tons of room, I doubt that clearance would be an issue if it was well thought out...

[Mogobs30th]

Re: 6 turbos in a v6??

Where the hell do you get these ideas?

1. 6 turbo's running 2-3 psi are going to net just that, 2-3 psi cylinder pressure, atleast the way you would have it set up.
2. What room is there in the engine to put these turbo's? I know there is SOME room, but once you get the piping in the car, its almost all gone.


If you want a turbo set like you're talking about, you'd have to have some sort of whamphizzly thing to do it...I just don't see it being feasible.

[LETZRIDE]

Re: 6 turbos in a v6??

Where the hell do you get these ideas?

no idea man...random **** just pops into my head sometimes and I run with it.

honestly, Im just curious about the idea...I dont have an intention of doing it at the moment, but I am doing the ITB's ...so it's a thought that came up and if something like this doesnt seem to have any issues, maybe further down the road I would look into doing it, but I'd also like to incorporate it into the design of the throttle bodies now (I.e hook up points for flanges to connect to the throttle bodies)

to be honest, when I think about it, I cant even see it being that expensive...remember Im talking small turbos, so Im hoping that if you use something it would be in the realm of 200-300$

[Mogobs30th]

Re: 6 turbos in a v6??

Small turbo's are not going to work. If you want 12-20 psi cylinder pressure, you need something that will make that. 6 Turbo's is not going to do that, unless all 6 are going thru the same throttle body. Can't divide up the turbos as 1 per cylinder and have that kind of pressure if there is only 1 turbo making 2-3 psi.

[LETZRIDE]

Re: 6 turbos in a v6??

would it be just 2-3 psi?...cause lets say on a regular turbo setup you run 8 psi, that is applied to the engine as a whole (all six cylinders) so it's kind of distributed no? By running one per each cylinder I woulda thought that you would make that much more power.

and I don't know, I see lots of room in my car (no abs or A/c) line the turbos up...or stack them 2 by 2 at the front of the car or off to the sides (get that battery in the trunk)

[LETZRIDE]

Re: 6 turbos in a v6??

Small turbo's are not going to work. If you want 12-20 psi cylinder pressure, you need something that will make that. 6 Turbo's is not going to do that, unless all 6 are going thru the same throttle body. Can't divide up the turbos as 1 per cylinder and have that kind of pressure if there is only 1 turbo making 2-3 psi.

I dont necessarily want 12-20 psi...maybe I'm wording it wrong...I would want the power that a single turbo putting out that psi would have, but I would only be running the 2-3 psi in the smaller turbos.

Im thinking more efficiency rather then how much boost you can make...I know they always say in order to get the most power out of an engine you should focus on each cylinder and get the most out of each cylinder rather then treating the engine as a whole...

[LETZRIDE]

Re: 6 turbos in a v6??

ok, fwiw here is a LS1 with 8 turbos and a story...http://www.hotrod.com/featuredvehicl...air/index.html

So it is possible...

[vanbibber]

Re: 6 turbos in a v6??

what the hell is this ITB mess youre talking about mike? my v6 game is lacking on what this is all about.

[T-Mill]

Re: 6 turbos in a v6??

mogobs is right on the 6 small turbos not benefiting you much other than helping to eliminate lag...

Think of it this way, if turbos were rated by the volume of air they push, then you could get away with using 6 turbos with smaller outputs. for example, instead of using one turbo that put out let's say 60 cubic feet per minute, you could use six that put out 10 cfm... but they would all be rated at the same psi

Another way to think of it: if you have six air tanks all hooked together, and one compressor capable of generating 60psi, all tanks would be filled to 60 psi... now if you add 5 more compressors all capable of generating 60 psi, the tanks would fill faster (eliminate turbo lag) but would still only reach 60 psi...

Pressure isn't cumulative like volume is... so six 3psi turbos doesn't equal 18psi total.

I do like the idea, especially since you're going through all the trouble for the ITB setup, it would be perfect for this... You could think about a remote turbo setup? If you don't use your backseat you could just eliminate it and cut out the tubs and weld in a box that would give you room... that's alot of piping, though...

[Mighty Thor]

Re: 6 turbos in a v6??

bugatti veyron has 4 turbos and the caddy concept (16 cyl) has 4 turbos as well.

I think 2 small turbos like the ones I saw at the Ford SHO would do our cars nicely. That SHO has no lag at all. The turbos are really small, as small as my fist.

[LETZRIDE]

Re: 6 turbos in a v6??

Ya, I gathered all that after I googled it a little more...when I originally googled 6 turbos nothing came up, but if you look ing v8's that have 8 of them they dont seem to be very efficicent.

I mean LS1's are only putting out 750rwhp at 13 psi, and like they stated, you can get that same power with a single turbo... I guess the way I was kinda thinking was along the same lines of running ITBs in the car. It's more efficient with the 6 filters because you are allowing each cylinder to fill up what it is capable of rather then fight for air in the manifold with the other cylinders...but turbos also force the air in, so I guess it kinda doesnt apply.
Cause I was thinking it would be like treating each cylinder as if it were an engine itself, which all goes back to individual cylinder tuning...

what the hell is this ITB mess youre talking about mike? my v6 game is lacking on what this is all about.

I've seriously been slacking on it since I got the new car that I am fixing up and selling...it's really eatten up all my extra time...so I only have a base plate made up still and 1 throttle body ready to go...but I am hoping to get back to work on it shortly...

On a GT 35...6 Throttle bodies, open air stacks :cool:

[pace2006]

Re: 6 turbos in a v6??

You and your crazy ideas... :P

I vote stick with NA and get this first project sorted out and finished. Then we'll look into boost. But I don't think 6 tiny turbos are the way to do it. Those things would max out in no time once you really got moving.

[97rs4life]

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6 turbos, plus the tubing in our engine bay? Yea not gonna happen unless you have jay leno size pockets

[whitdog54]

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So many oil lines!!!!!

Another way to think of it: if you have six air tanks all hooked together, and one compressor capable of generating 60psi, all tanks would be filled to 60 psi... now if you add 5 more compressors all capable of generating 60 psi, the tanks would fill faster (eliminate turbo lag) but would still only reach 60 psi...

Pressure isn't cumulative like volume is... so six 3psi turbos doesn't equal 18psi total.

Very well said, that cleared things up in my head.

[dmw319]

Re: 6 turbos in a v6??

so this is what this section has become since i no longer have my turbo 6 lol