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Yes air to air.Past Ride
1995 Firebird A4 3.8 Turbocharged -- 12.50 at 108
(If you dont know me, you haven't had a V6 long enough)
Current Ride
2006 Mitsubishi Evolution GSR
www.myspace.com/shane1015
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How much an intercooler provides horsepower depends on how efficiently it cools the air and how much it cools the air passing through it. So each application will be different normally on 7psi you would be seeing 15-35 horsepower depending on the application.00\' firebird v6 5spd<br />201rwhp ---- 230 rwtq<br />\"Everyday I grow stronger...and further from you.\"<br />WARNING: Do not take any of my comments seriously unless they are technical in nature and then only at your own risk
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The intercooler is basicall a rad for the turbo right? The turbo exhaust passes through it onto the intake, and also external air hitting it cools the exhaust?1997 silver Camaro RS<br />|T-Type Powered|<br /><a href=\"http://www.kwfbody.com\" target=\"_blank\">Looking for a local F-Body club in K/W, Ontario, Canada?</a>
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Ok.. compressors by design superheat air. Its just one of those thermodynamic problems we have to deal with. Therefore air passing through a turbo is heated as it is compressed. Placing an intercooler between the turbocharger and your TB lowers the air temperature before it goes into the engine. The most common type air-to-air works pretty much like the radiator except it uses air(passing by) to cool the air (passing through it). Thus it makes horsepower. These aren't exact numbers but 220F air entering your engine and 120F air entering your engine is a nice little gain in horsepower (same basis as a CAI lower temp = more air crammed into the combustion chamber)
Go go gacket intercooler you have horsepower! [img]graemlins/fluffy.gif[/img]
[ December 19, 2003: Message edited by: ReodDai ]</p>00\' firebird v6 5spd<br />201rwhp ---- 230 rwtq<br />\"Everyday I grow stronger...and further from you.\"<br />WARNING: Do not take any of my comments seriously unless they are technical in nature and then only at your own risk
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Actually if you want to be technical...Nitrous will cool down the air more than an Air-2-Air IC (besides 7psi with his turbo spec isn't putting out enough heat to even use an IC)...
Shane's 3800S2's potency is mostly with the turbos efficiency and especially the stall! I am more than confident that with another 3 or 4 psi he can get into the 11's...as long as he hooks...lol!!THE ORIGINAL 3800SII turbo...<b><i>NOW SERIES-III</i></b>
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<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by slow:
intercoolers don't add much power themselves...
allowing cooler air, and reading boost pressure after the ic, allows more air to be moved, with said "boost pressure"
as well as more timing allowed due to cooler intake charge
Ryan [img]smile.gif[/img] <hr></blockquote>
xjarajax, I probably said his name wrong, sorry, ran the turbo without an intercooler and made 14.3 in the 1/4 mile. That's similar to a supercharger.
According to Turbo Mag. Jan. 1996, an intercooler can cut 6 to 10 tenth off your time and add anywhere from 40 to 80 hp, and even up to 120 hp. Ofcourse this is depending on the boost and the efficiency of the intercooler.
I like the combo that Shirl has. It seems like alot of blown car nowadays are adding N2O to their ride.
1998 Firebird . 1989 Firebird XS . 1986 Fiero GT
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lol nocutt bet you if you take off the intercooler you WILL see a difference in horsepower. Also nitrous isn't permanent an intercooler is and both can be used at the same time.00\' firebird v6 5spd<br />201rwhp ---- 230 rwtq<br />\"Everyday I grow stronger...and further from you.\"<br />WARNING: Do not take any of my comments seriously unless they are technical in nature and then only at your own risk
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<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by ReodDai:
lol nocutt bet you if you take off the intercooler you WILL see a difference in horsepower.<hr></blockquote>
How much? lol! Look at Shane's turbo spec @ 7psi it is really hardly working a 231ci motor...anywayz there are to much variables to argue over...the point however is IC or NO IC that combo will still net that or very close to that MPH on an A4
<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Also nitrous isn't permanent an intercooler is and both can be used at the same time. <hr></blockquote>
Nitrous will still reduce intake temp more than the most efficient Air-2-Air IC given the same scenario...can't change that...that was my point, nothing more ;)THE ORIGINAL 3800SII turbo...<b><i>NOW SERIES-III</i></b>
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<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by nocutt:
Actually if you want to be technical...Nitrous will cool down the air more than an Air-2-Air IC (besides 7psi with his turbo spec isn't putting out enough heat to even use an IC)...
Shane's 3800S2's potency is mostly with the turbos efficiency and especially the stall! I am more than confident that with another 3 or 4 psi he can get into the 11's...as long as he hooks...lol!!<hr></blockquote>
ya with slicks and 10-12 psi i should run 11's as long as my motor doesnt blow.
BTW you have any numbers or pics of ur car?Past Ride
1995 Firebird A4 3.8 Turbocharged -- 12.50 at 108
(If you dont know me, you haven't had a V6 long enough)
Current Ride
2006 Mitsubishi Evolution GSR
www.myspace.com/shane1015
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<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Shane:
ya with slicks and 10-12 psi i should run 11's as long as my motor doesnt blow.
BTW you have any numbers or pics of ur car?<hr></blockquote>
Pics are here: http://f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/noc...et+another.jpg
Same heart different body 7 years old...lol!
Dragged once at California Speedway...
14.2s @ 99mph with 4.5psi pk boost and 2.3X 60'THE ORIGINAL 3800SII turbo...<b><i>NOW SERIES-III</i></b>
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but why does ur sig say "3800II V6 intercooled turbo...wait my gauge reads 11psi@wot...is that correct?"Past Ride
1995 Firebird A4 3.8 Turbocharged -- 12.50 at 108
(If you dont know me, you haven't had a V6 long enough)
Current Ride
2006 Mitsubishi Evolution GSR
www.myspace.com/shane1015
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<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Shane:
but why does ur sig say "3800II V6 intercooled turbo...wait my gauge reads 11psi@wot...is that correct?"<hr></blockquote>
I am not sure if I understand your question/statement :(
It is a '97 3800S2 FWD swapped into an '88 chevy beretta GTU and then turbocharged...
I am always fiddling with boost(EBC)and had the gauge read 11psi once and have never put it past 4.5psi...FWD it is squirely & scarey... :eek:THE ORIGINAL 3800SII turbo...<b><i>NOW SERIES-III</i></b>
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What kind of tires are those on page 5?? Nittos? Never seen those before2004 CE Corvette 10.86@132mph
1996 Supercharged/Nitrous Camaro RS (For Sale)
2011 Cadillac CTS-V
2011 Mitsubishi Eclipse Spyder GT-P
2006 Mitsubishi Eclipse GS
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