best turbo/super charger for....

[V6Knowledge]

2000 firebird? 3.8 liter v6...would be nice if someone had links to low end/mid end/high end super/turbo chargers...whatever puts out most hp...

[BLLDOGG]

that alittle hard to answer cause i dont think anyone has done any of those with a stock car so its alittle hard to compair. Tiago's turbo kit is a good way to go with that side and the RKsport powerdyne kit is good along with a ATI Procharger kit for an LT1 w/ some changes is good too.

['94firebirdv6]

it all depends on how extreme you want to go with your set-up. I personally like turbos better because they don't take hardly any power from the motor and are capable of producing alot of boost. but a stock motor can only handle about 10psi with stock internals. so again its basically how much boost you want to run.

[Turbo V6 Camaro]

Originally posted by '94firebirdv6:
it all depends on how extreme you want to go with your set-up. I personally like turbos better because they don't take hardly any power from the motor and are capable of producing alot of boost. but a stock motor can only handle about 10psi with stock internals. so again its basically how much boost you want to run.

no tiagos turbo kit dynoed
On 91oct gas
6psi 255hp and 290tq ~5000rpms
7psi 293hp and 304tq ~5000rpms

With 114 gas
13psi 332hp and 396tq at ~4200rpms
At 15psi we got 352hp and 416tq at 4400rpms


http://www.camarov6.com/ubb/ultimate...=001442#000000

[AlienInv8r]

You aren't gonna be running around with 114 oct gas on a normal basis though, especially with gas prices like they are. The 91 oct numbers are probably more the norm for the kit. I want one, but money doesnt grow on trees :(

[Turbo V6 Camaro]

Originally posted by AlienInv8r:
You aren't gonna be running around with 114 oct gas on a normal basis though, especially with gas prices like they are. The 91 oct numbers are probably more the norm for the kit. I want one, but money doesnt grow on trees :(

oh come one why not, its only 100 perfill up [img]tongue.gif[/img]

but you could do 10psi on pump gas the would put you about 320 at the wheels

[99v6cam]

"On 91oct gas
6psi 255hp and 290tq ~5000rpms
7psi 293hp and 304tq ~5000rpms

With 114 gas
13psi 332hp and 396tq at ~4200rpms
At 15psi we got 352hp and 416tq at 4400rpms"

Strange to see how 1 psi can make so much more power from 6 to 7 but from 7 to 13 and race gas it produces about the same increase. I dunno maybe it's just me...

[Turbo V6 Camaro]

Originally posted by 99v6cam:
"On 91oct gas
6psi 255hp and 290tq ~5000rpms
7psi 293hp and 304tq ~5000rpms

With 114 gas
13psi 332hp and 396tq at ~4200rpms
At 15psi we got 352hp and 416tq at 4400rpms"

Strange to see how 1 psi can make so much more power from 6 to 7 but from 7 to 13 and race gas it produces about the same increase. I dunno maybe it's just me...

can't compair the 7 psi to the 13 psi there at diff RPMS [img]graemlins/slap.gif[/img]

[ravenp]

So you wouldn't run above ____ psi on 94 octane?

[Tiago]

first of all teh 255 rwhp 290 rwtq numers were at ~5 psi. Also on teh 7 psi run that netted 290 something rwhp and only 300 tq , the tq was so low because believe it or not they ran out of gas on the dyno during that run. Yes when they shut down the car, it would not run any more ahahhaa. After a fresh fill a second 7 psi run netted 294 rwhp and 360 rwtq, noticee the tq increase with fuel. Same problem happened on the 15 psi run when they locked up the injectors the tq is probably low to what it could be under good fueling.

[Tiago]

you can run 12 psi on 93 octane. Depends on tune, in the heat of the summer you would need some spark retard maybe but during winter, no problem. Cold air ownz.

[ravenp]

So with a rebuilt motor, forged internals, 5 angle valve, turbo cam etc... and 15-18psi, you'd have to run higher than 94, except perhaps in winter? :D

[ravenp]

Oh, and hopefully by then... some custom pcm tuning [img]smile.gif[/img]

['94firebirdv6]

maybe not if you dropped your compression

[Tiago]

Originally posted by ravenp:
So with a rebuilt motor, forged internals, 5 angle valve, turbo cam etc... and 15-18psi, you'd have to run higher than 94, except perhaps in winter? :D

you rebuild the engine with low CR and you can run 18 psi on 93 no problem.