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Was planning on doing my exhaust, intake, etc first as far as mods go, I'm really going for performance. My questions is, if I do the above first, then decide I want to throw on a FFF turbo kit down the road, will I have wasted my money? Does the turbo kit piping replace your current exhaust system, or would I be smart to make sure my car is all built for high performance before throwing on a turbo? Should I get the turbo first and forget the other mods till later? Thanks.
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do the exuast first 3" at least
the turbo replace the intake so dont worry about thatwww.turbov6camaro.com
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your other option is to get a cutout and put it in right after the turbo. you will get better performance and it will be cheaper. i would suggest getting one of the electonic ones like the qtec so you can open and close it in the car while driving instead of getting out and going under the car and unscrewing it.2001 Arctic White Firebird With Black Drop Top<br /><br />3:42 Gears<br />Zexel LSD<br />BMR upper A-Arms<br />Trans Am exhaust with 3\" I-pipe and cutout<br />Modified intake<br />Mecham Hood<br />Trans Go shift kit<br />Making rear control arms and panhardComment
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Ah, so if I grab the FFF turbo kit and the qtec cutout I should be good to go as far as airflow? Open up the cutout when I want to speed?
If I decide to get a 3 inch loudmouth exhaust system, I can skip the airintake since I'll be getting turbo eventually, what about Headers? Should I still get CIA headers or will I see no real performance increase worth the money?
What about sound? I know the loudmouth sounds good. What does running turbo sound like with the qtec cutout, open and closed? Will I still sound factory? Thanks! [img]redface.gif[/img]Comment
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Oh yea more questions... Should I go hi flow cat or no cat at all if I'm using turbo? Thanks :DComment
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after you add a turbo your car will sound anything but factory. there is a post called teaser vid or something like that in this part of the site. download it if you want to know what it sounds like with an open qtec or open downpipe, as for the closed qtec there will be a difference in the exhaust sound but the actual exhaust shouldnt be to much louder. that said there will be this high pitch sound when you are under boost which comes from the turbine in the turbo. there will also be a hiss of air kinda like a pssssst or ksssst when you shift or let off the gas after being under boost and this will come from the Blow off valve. i hope this kinda helps you know how it sounds to drive a turbo car, there really isnt anything like it. Definately go to download the teaser though it would be the best way to know.2001 Arctic White Firebird With Black Drop Top<br /><br />3:42 Gears<br />Zexel LSD<br />BMR upper A-Arms<br />Trans Am exhaust with 3\" I-pipe and cutout<br />Modified intake<br />Mecham Hood<br />Trans Go shift kit<br />Making rear control arms and panhardComment
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well i dont know what year ur car is but unless its a 2000 to 2001 with the tubular manifolds i would def get headers because the stock ones are pretty restrictive. as for the cat its all a matter of ur preference....some ppl have them and some dont. My car sounded a little better when i still had my cat on the car but it got clogged. anyway, i'd also reccomend getting a LSD along w. gears...probably 3.73 since u wanna add a turbo.
and about the sound....an F-body with a turbo is one of the best sounds you will ever hear
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the FFF turbo kits are based on stock manifolds. The y-pipe connecting the stock manifolds will not fit with the CIA headers. it will have to be customized to allow for the additional length of the primary tubes coming off the heads. the intake mods will be a waste of money to get them, but till then, i think u'd enjoy having them on the car, unless u can wait and save for the turbo and live w/o the power for a while.
3" exhaust to start, w/ a little restriction as possible. Rumbler and Loudmouth both would be good. maybe later on if u build up ur motor and get a huge turbo u might need bigger. The best place for a cut-out would be directly after the turbo to reduce as much backpressure as possible. if u wanna be "smog legal", u would wanna get a 3" cat and put it right after the turbo, and then put the cut-out right after that.
A turbo car sounds a lot different than normal cars. It will sound smoother from the air going past the turbine wheel. when u get on the gas, u will know it's a turbo car, or at least something major has been done to it because it will scream, or depending on the exhaust, sound like an airplane motor at high speed.2001 Arctic White Firebird<br />More mods than I\'m allowed to list!Comment
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Ok great you've all been very helpful. [img]smile.gif[/img] I do have a 2000 convertible, so I will go ahead and keep the stock manifolds, that wll save me over 400 dollars right there. Won't need to blow the money on all the ram air and cold air intake stuff now either from the sounds of it? So really skipping right to turbo seems the way to go if I have the money, which I will when I get back from my deployment. I did however definantly plan on upping my gears, probably to 4.10, but at the very least 3.73. I'll do all the drivetrain mods after the turbo, torque converter, sparks, gears, etc. I live in oklahoma city, and we don't have Emissions here, so would I get better performance if I just gut my cat and ran it through a cut off?
Arctc Wolf this questions is mostly for you, but anyone feel free to answer it. You said I should pick a 3 inch exhaust to start, but if I build up my motor and get a huge turbo I might need bigger? What do you mean by getting a bigger turbo? I'm trying to avoid doing upgrades and just getting everything I need at the same time. Also, if I get a loudmouth exhaust system, should I still get a cutoff? Or would that be a waste? Should I pick one or the other? And what would you suggest if thats the case?
Tiago please feel free to chime in here too, I"d like your opinion on what I should run as far as intake/exhaust goes to prep for your turbo. I want to know what I need and what I don't need for best gains with it. Thanks :D
Oh yea, also, how do I buy one of your FFF turbos? I'll be ready to order one on the first of september, just before I get back from my deployment. I want to get on that group order thingy [img]redface.gif[/img]Comment
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Just run a 3inch exaust with a cutout before the cat if you really want an exaust. ;)
To purchase a kit just email me and we'll work out the details.Comment
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dont worry about getting a big turbo right off the bat. to run that you would have to do some engine mods as well and that takes a "LOT" of money. as for what a bigger turbo means, well it basically just means its bigger. when you get a bigger turbo you will usually have a higher boost threashold (higher rpm before you come under boost most would call this lag but it is boost threashold) and you would be able to produce more power with it if you can actually take advantage of it. talk to tiago or davidsiri if you are really thinking of doing the big turbo thing they should be able to give you more info on it. as for gears i wouldnt go any higher than 3.73's because if you do your top speed will be greatly reduced and your quater will probably also suffer. and your best bet would be to put the cutout directly after the turbo, dont bother gutting your cat and putting it after it, at worst replace your cat with a pipe and put the cutout there. And yeah you dont need to replace your manifolds with headers what you have will work fine.2001 Arctic White Firebird With Black Drop Top<br /><br />3:42 Gears<br />Zexel LSD<br />BMR upper A-Arms<br />Trans Am exhaust with 3\" I-pipe and cutout<br />Modified intake<br />Mecham Hood<br />Trans Go shift kit<br />Making rear control arms and panhardComment
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Alright great, very helpful. 3.73 gears, turbo with a 3 inch exhaust, electric cut out run right before the cat, so when i want to romp on the power, I open the cutout and let it flow out before the cat. Sounds good and makes sence, does the exhaust flow out the bottom of the vehicle when the cutout is open? Just curious. Any more suggestions feel free to let me know, otherwise I guess this is what I'm going with. [img]redface.gif[/img] I need to get a torque converter very soon too :DComment
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turbo's like the least amount of backpressure possible. gettingthe "starter" kit from tiago, u'll be fine w/ 3" exhaust. u should get rid of ur cat if u have no emissions for lower pbackpressure, and put a cut-out right after the turbo for when u wanna race and get the full amount of power possible. u'll prolly end up w/ a solid 325 rwhp or maybe 350 rwhp if u have the turbo kit, exhaust, and ignition mods to support it.
The starter kit that tiago put out has a T3/TO4 hybrid turbo, I believe. what I mean by bigger is nething bigger than this turbo, or w/ better turbine and compressor wheels, ball-bearings, ect and higher boost. of course, a big turbo will like a better flowing motor, so having a built motor, in my mind, means a race-prepped block w/ low compression pistons, heads/cam, ported intake manifold, and higher rpm's. I wouldn't mind being able to have a streetable motor w/ a T88 under the hood someday. I'm sure if built right, it could happen.2001 Arctic White Firebird<br />More mods than I\'m allowed to list!Comment
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i dont know, davidsiri has i think a t66 in his with a built motor and he is running a 9.5 with a bad tranny so i dont think you need any bigger than that.2001 Arctic White Firebird With Black Drop Top<br /><br />3:42 Gears<br />Zexel LSD<br />BMR upper A-Arms<br />Trans Am exhaust with 3\" I-pipe and cutout<br />Modified intake<br />Mecham Hood<br />Trans Go shift kit<br />Making rear control arms and panhardComment
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How much does a t66 turbo cost just out of curiosity? No intentions of buying it. How does this FFF starter turbo compare to something like the Supercharger from the more well known companies?
What's an LSD? I keep hearing I should get an upgraded LSD for this turbo too. [img]redface.gif[/img]Comment
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