Incomplete Turbo pics!

[Teufel Hunden]

Here are a few pics of how my turbo setup is run. These are pics from before the project was completed, but it'll still give everyone an idea how everything is run.

Here's my FMIC. It was custom made for this car. the measurements are 24x12x3 w/ 2.5" inlets.

http://ourworld.cs.com/TeufelHundenM198/FMIC.jpg


The finished intercooler install....

http://ourworld.cs.com/TeufelHundenM198/Grille.jpg

That intercooler was installed a few months before the fabrication of the turbo kit took place. That's why i still have that whisper lid with red tape on it.. :D

Here's the crossover pipe. I really wanted to stay with the Pace Setter headers that are already on the car, so we used the y-pipe that came with them and cut into it to make the new turbo y-pipe.

http://ourworld.cs.com/TeufelHundenM...ssoverPipe.jpg

Here's a closeup of the connection we used from the headers to the up pipe.

http://ourworld.cs.com/TeufelHundenM198/YPipe.jpg


This is the up-pipe from the front of the car.

http://ourworld.cs.com/TeufelHundenM...soverPipe2.jpg

I'll post some more pics as soon as i get them Emailed to me!

[ June 19, 2004, 01:45 AM: Message edited by: Loochy88 ]

[-B-]

looks like a really great setup.

[snatch]

looks good

[T-Punk]

thats kinda a long distance to run the piping to the turbo, i cant immagine it being very efficient but my god that looks clean. hope to see the #'s... and maybe a picture of the actual turbo (just curious how you have that side set up).

[Teufel Hunden]

Originally posted by T-Punk:
thats kinda a long distance to run the piping to the turbo, i cant immagine it being very efficient but my god that looks clean. hope to see the #'s... and maybe a picture of the actual turbo (just curious how you have that side set up).

The LT1 rear-mount kit sees awesome gains and awesome performance, and their turbo is mounted all the way back by their muffler, then the intake pipes run all the way back to the front. The length of the pipes is only one SMALL part of the equation of turbo system efficiency.

I'll post the complete system pics when i get them.. they're currently on my buddy's digicam. Don't worry though, i'll post all the pics everyone could ever want when i get the chance :D

[ June 18, 2004, 09:56 PM: Message edited by: Teufel Hunden ]

[Loochy88]

neat setup. im moving it to FI though.

[2000camarostud]

looks good, however i think the intercooler might serve better purpose if you hack off the front grille (yes the part that is molded to the bumper)

[Teufel Hunden]

Originally posted by 2000camarostud:
looks good, however i think the intercooler might serve better purpose if you hack off the front grille (yes the part that is molded to the bumper)

The intercooler was mounted before the fabrication took place. With no turbo in there, it would have been pointless to worry about airflow to the intercooler, so i left everything alone. Of course i went back later and fixed it so i could get better flow...

[Teufel Hunden]

Here's a pretty good shot of my car... the Red Z28 belongs to a friend of mine.

http://ourworld.cs.com/TeufelHundenM198/Cars1.jpg

[Turbo V6 Camaro]

Originally posted by Teufel Hunden:
Here's a pretty good shot of my car... the Red Z28 belongs to a friend of mine.

http://ourworld.cs.com/TeufelHundenM198/Cars1.jpg

holly **** can you say JPEG compression!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! that pic is huge 56K = no way in hell

[Teufel Hunden]

Originally posted by viper04af:
holly **** can you say JPEG compression!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! that pic is huge 56K = no way in hell

it's only 177k.

[Turbo V6 Camaro]

Originally posted by Teufel Hunden:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by viper04af:
holly **** can you say JPEG compression!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! that pic is huge 56K = no way in hell

it's only 177k. </font>[/QUOTE]freaking telecom Italy, had to reboot now its faster lol

[T-Punk]

no i agree the length wont kill the efficiency. i just dont see your system really taking advantage of the headers with how tight some of those turns are. i dont think it will really hurt you that much but i would have done things a little different. as for the rear mount kit... its good but its not as efficient as the incon was. of course you could argue that other variable made the incon better (like the real intercoolers, a twin verses single setup, better turbos, etc). i think it will still work out nicely for you though. how much boost are you planning on running, like 10psi? if so i think you will hit the 300hp mark, which deffinately gives you some bragging rights.

[Teufel Hunden]

Originally posted by T-Punk:
no i agree the length wont kill the efficiency. i just dont see your system really taking advantage of the headers with how tight some of those turns are. i dont think it will really hurt you that much but i would have done things a little different. as for the rear mount kit... its good but its not as efficient as the incon was. of course you could argue that other variable made the incon better (like the real intercoolers, a twin verses single setup, better turbos, etc). i think it will still work out nicely for you though. how much boost are you planning on running, like 10psi? if so i think you will hit the 300hp mark, which deffinately gives you some bragging rights.

The tight turns are killing my efficiency now? If you had any understanding of running turbo pipes, you'd also understand that if you have 1 90º turn or 2 45º turns, it still has the same effect on overall efficiency. Sure i've got a couple of "tight" turns, but it would be no different if i had a series of lesser turns.. you see what i'm getting at? Believe me, the system takes advantage of the headers just fine, and anyone who isn't an amateur in this field would plainly see that. Let me ask you this.. without custom forward swept turbo headers (which anyone will agree is optimal) , how could i have run the pipes to make my kit so much better than it is now? the pipes run stright up and to the turbo... there are only the necessary bends required to reach said turbo, and the overall length of the pipes is as short as possible with that design. How, i ask, could you have done things any better without using forward swept headers? The simplicity of this design is one of its major strong points. The pipes don't go anywhere they don't need to go, they don't bend around or through anything, they go straight (literally) from the headers to the turbo.. so since you're the piping expert here, tell me how i should have designed my car.

[ June 19, 2004, 06:10 PM: Message edited by: Teufel Hunden ]

[T-Punk]

no need to get nasty bro i dont think its a bad system by any means. i just see some small things that i have designed out by designing a twin setup and by using a scavage pump. i am starting the actuall work next month on mine but anyway. i wanted to keep the turbo/turbos as close to the hottest, highest velocity gasses as possible so i am going to customize tmy manifolds and mount the turbos directly to each one (this puts them to low for gravaty feed for the oil hence i needed to designe for a scavange pump). then to minimize bends i am using the redirection of air that ever turbo does to direct the flow (thus eliminating one of the 90 degree bends in the piping) under the K member and to face the exhaust towards the rear (which i plan on linking up to the new 3" true dual exhaust from tsp). then to go even farther on keeping flow as good as possible i opted to use the twin intercooler kit from procharger (which i am getting from slow at the end of this month). the procharger kit has the intercooler in the corners at the bottom of the bumper so its a straigh shot from the turbos to them. then i let the intercooler kit do the rest of the piping (i admit i got lazy here). but thats my design. also since you brought it up the only way i ever thought of doing a single setup was by doing forward swept headers. once again i think you have done a good job with your setup and i think it will do well for you, i'm just a perfectionist. sorry if i offended.