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    Why does the FFF kit post a best time of 14.0? I dont understand how it has more rwhp than a trans am and is lighter...but yet it doesnt have as good of times as the trans am. Also, how safe would it be to run at 15 psi hard every once and a while on stock internals?

  • #2
    because those times are from when they tried to run the car on the stock clutch... that didn't work out very well. Nobody else has gotten track times yet :(

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    • #3
      Did you read the part where it says "This was its shake down run and it destroyed the stock clutch on the first hard launch." This car is not owned by FFF.

      Now a car that is owned by FFF:
      The 3.4 firebird went 13.5 at 107 mph with a 2.0 60ft.

      From FFF website:
      At the track this car has been finding its weak links. Successful 7 psi runs have been made to a time of 13.5 at 107 mph with a 2.0 60ft. This was with the small/old TO4 turbo. When boost was raised the clutch at the time was a Centerforce Dual Friction and it simply did not hold down the power. The car would slip through RPM straight to the rev limiter and cook the clutch preventing me from shifting. With these problems I was still coasting through the track to teh tune of still a 13.5 at 104 on a 1.69 60 ft. No doubt if the clutch had held down on this track visit with the 1.6 60fts the car would have ran deep into the 12s.
      [ July 04, 2005, 06:12 PM: Message edited by: Linxs ]
      Patrick<br />Sick Sixx Member<br /><b>97 Mystic Teal Camaro</b><br />425RWHP @14PSI<br />Old setup:<br />330RWHP @7PSI 13.9 @ 106.6 <a href=\"http://www.fullthrottlev6.com/forums/vbgarage.php?do=view&id=4\" target=\"_blank\">Mods</a>

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      • #4
        isnt his 3.4 pretty well modified though, or is it stock internals?

        Are there any 3.4 or 3.8's that are stock as far as internals going to the track anytime soon? I ask because i am still interested in getting one of these kits (i guess used if thats all thats around) but i am waiting to see some actual track runs preferably with an auto.
        97 RS<br />Member Status: F-Body Owner<br />Member Number: 7705<br />Registered: September 13, 2005<br />Posts: 24<br />Email Address: hfoxx123@yahoo.com<br />Location: Minnesota<br />Occupation: Database Administration<br />Homepage: <a href=\"http://none\" target=\"_blank\">http://none</a><br />Car: uh a camaro

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        • #5
          His 3.4 has ported heads and intake with LT1 throttle body, it is otherwise stock.

          pretty impressive

          hybrid - \'\'hI-br&d - The offspring of a cross between species.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by Red:
            isnt his 3.4 pretty well modified though, or is it stock internals?

            Are there any 3.4 or 3.8's that are stock as far as internals going to the track anytime soon? I ask because i am still interested in getting one of these kits (i guess used if thats all thats around) but i am waiting to see some actual track runs preferably with an auto.
            Just ported intake/heads, stock internals. I duno if/when anyone is going to the track. I will be in a month or so after we finish my set-up and tune it.

            Don't forget track times will very, depending on how the cars are setup.
            Patrick<br />Sick Sixx Member<br /><b>97 Mystic Teal Camaro</b><br />425RWHP @14PSI<br />Old setup:<br />330RWHP @7PSI 13.9 @ 106.6 <a href=\"http://www.fullthrottlev6.com/forums/vbgarage.php?do=view&id=4\" target=\"_blank\">Mods</a>

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            • #7
              I'll being finishing up my 3.4 soon and I'll get some numbers for everyone....
              Ben<br /><br />1995 White/Black 3.4L<br />As far away from stock as possible<br /><a href=\"http://www.cardomain.com/member_pages/view_page.pl?page_id=288292\" target=\"_blank\">My Site!!!</a><br /><a href=\"http://www.redlinevsix.com\" target=\"_blank\">RedLineV6</a><br />Rebuild and 3.4 T70 Turbo is complete<br />Details to come....

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              • #8
                i look forward to it. I have been trying to find out as much info as i can, but you know how it is trying to search about the kit. 90% are deleted.

                I wont be getting one til i finish up some other stuff, but i'll keep a look out.
                97 RS<br />Member Status: F-Body Owner<br />Member Number: 7705<br />Registered: September 13, 2005<br />Posts: 24<br />Email Address: hfoxx123@yahoo.com<br />Location: Minnesota<br />Occupation: Database Administration<br />Homepage: <a href=\"http://none\" target=\"_blank\">http://none</a><br />Car: uh a camaro

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Red:
                  i look forward to it. I have been trying to find out as much info as i can, but you know how it is trying to search about the kit. 90% are deleted.

                  I wont be getting one til i finish up some other stuff, but i'll keep a look out.
                  You're are always welcome to AIM me (CamaroLinxs) if you have questions. Since I run an FFF kit and have helped Tiago build 3 or 4, I kinda know what's going on.
                  Patrick<br />Sick Sixx Member<br /><b>97 Mystic Teal Camaro</b><br />425RWHP @14PSI<br />Old setup:<br />330RWHP @7PSI 13.9 @ 106.6 <a href=\"http://www.fullthrottlev6.com/forums/vbgarage.php?do=view&id=4\" target=\"_blank\">Mods</a>

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                  • #10
                    everyone has broke tranny or clutch and up grading them leads to the rearend giving out.

                    hopefully soon i can get to the 1/8th mile track and one day a 1/4 mile
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                    7.18 @ 99.77 1/8 -1.8x sixty (current quickest v6 fbod)
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                    • #11
                      do you think an auto with an eaton lsd and ta girdle could hold up when using 3.73's, dr's, stock stall and ts tuning on the hybrid t3/04. I'd have suspension mods as well such as TA and LCA's, but wonder if (since i do plan on getting a turbo of some kind) i should just plan on changing gears and lsd and the girdle, or if i should try to find a 12 bolt rear end and swap. Dont want to do one, only to have to change out.

                      I heard auto 10 bolts have stood up better than manuals, but with the gears and turbo i wasnt sure.
                      97 RS<br />Member Status: F-Body Owner<br />Member Number: 7705<br />Registered: September 13, 2005<br />Posts: 24<br />Email Address: hfoxx123@yahoo.com<br />Location: Minnesota<br />Occupation: Database Administration<br />Homepage: <a href=\"http://none\" target=\"_blank\">http://none</a><br />Car: uh a camaro

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                      • #12
                        the rear end on a 10 bolt will live a lot longer on an auto car then on a manual car.

                        especially if you are not running a torque convertor.

                        my gears are not in yet, but my Z28 is pulling 1.70 60's with a 3500 stall. et streets for tires. The gears are going in in a week or two.
                        1996 CamaroRS <br />15.5 @ 86<br />Sold<br /><br />2000 Z28 Convertible 3700lbs<br />Lid, Cutout, yank 3600 Stall, built trans, snall cam, NX Wet kit.<br />11.3 @ 118<br />Best 60\' is 1.58<br />497 RWHP 475 RWTQ

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                        • #13
                          thats what i was thinking, just wanted to be sure before i just do gears and cover. Hate to spend 500 or 600 bucks only to have to get a new rear end after adding power adder.
                          97 RS<br />Member Status: F-Body Owner<br />Member Number: 7705<br />Registered: September 13, 2005<br />Posts: 24<br />Email Address: hfoxx123@yahoo.com<br />Location: Minnesota<br />Occupation: Database Administration<br />Homepage: <a href=\"http://none\" target=\"_blank\">http://none</a><br />Car: uh a camaro

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                          • #14
                            didnt Shane have an FFF kit when he ran 12.5? ..and yeah i wanna see White95's #s too!
                            <b>12 SECOND DUAL STAGE DRY NITROUS POWERED 98 A4 V6 CAMARO<br /><a href=\"http://www.mysickcamaro.50megs.com\" target=\"_blank\">www.MySickCamaro.50megs.com</a><br />Best ET: 12.82@103<br />Best MPH: 104.7<br />Best 60\': 1.75 - Stock TC</b><br /> </font><blockquote><font size=\"1\" face=\"Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif\">quote:</font><hr /><font size=\"2\" face=\"Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif\">Originally posted by Shodown:<br /><strong>1DV6 runs 12\'s...enough said. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size=\"2\" face=\"Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif\">

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by 1DangerousV6:
                              didnt Shane have an FFF kit when he ran 12.5? ..and yeah i wanna see White95's #s too!
                              Shane had a custom foward swept kit, which is now my kit. He had an A4 with a stall converter, 3.42's LSD and thats really about it.
                              -Kevin<br /><a href=\"http://heinz.no-ip.com/Car%20Pics/IM000117.JPG\" target=\"_blank\"><b>\'96 White Camaro RS M5</b></a> <br />GTP Shortblock - T3/T4 -6psi Intercooled<br />Open Downpipe

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