turbo guys help me out

[Turbo V6 Camaro]

Originally posted by Shane:
yeah its a Gold aluminum backplate.....how u figure its too much? Tiago and couple others run 70mm which THAT is way too much for these motors.

not it's i'm biult and it works fine and pat it stock and it spools way before yours does

[nocutt]

Originally posted by Shane:
yeah its a Gold aluminum backplate.....how u figure its too much? Tiago and couple others run 70mm which THAT is way too much for these motors.

lol!! then I will have to rephrase myself...62-1 is enough turbo till the block breaks...the T70 is JUST TOO MUCH especially for stockers and milds ;)
LOL!!

[Turbo V6 Camaro]

Originally posted by nocutt:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Shane:
yeah its a Gold aluminum backplate.....how u figure its too much? Tiago and couple others run 70mm which THAT is way too much for these motors.

lol!! then I will have to rephrase myself...62-1 is enough turbo till the block breaks...the T70 is JUST TOO MUCH especially for stockers and milds ;)
LOL!! </font>[/QUOTE]if your being funny HAHA

if your not the T-70 is working just fine 4 people have proved that [img]smile.gif[/img]

[Shane]

Originally posted by viper04af:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by nocutt:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Shane:
yeah its a Gold aluminum backplate.....how u figure its too much? Tiago and couple others run 70mm which THAT is way too much for these motors.

lol!! then I will have to rephrase myself...62-1 is enough turbo till the block breaks...the T70 is JUST TOO MUCH especially for stockers and milds ;)
LOL!! </font>[/QUOTE]if your being funny HAHA

if your not the T-70 is working just fine 4 people have proved that [img]smile.gif[/img] </font>[/QUOTE]proved what? i havent seen dyno numbers nor track numbers.

[Turbo V6 Camaro]

pat dyno 330 at 7 PSI

and 13.9 @ 104 with a 2.8 60 foot

me and the others have not had the chance

[Shane]

Originally posted by viper04af:
pat dyno 330 at 7 PSI

and 13.9 @ 104 with a 2.8 60 foot

me and the others have not had the chance

then 4 people havent proved it then have they? ;)

[Turbo V6 Camaro]

Originally posted by Shane:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by viper04af:
pat dyno 330 at 7 PSI

and 13.9 @ 104 with a 2.8 60 foot

me and the others have not had the chance

then 4 people havent proved it then have they? ;) </font>[/QUOTE]:rolleyes: ok rich boy :rolleyes:

i didn't mean by track times i think pats MPH and HP "prove" if you will. that the t-70 turbo is not to big for our motor.....

i was only saying it spool really well and make good power..... sorry we are all not sponsored like you are. jeez things take time

[nocutt]

if your being funny HAHA

if your not the T-70 is working just fine 4 people have proved that

Actually I was been semi serious...I could put a T76 with a smaller hot housing and it will still work, right...!?!?
I don't want to put anyones name in ___&lt;---there but I have NOT SEEN any legitimate powergraphs to "proove" your point...seriously!! I mean someone ran 13.X @ 10XMPH so? I ran 14.7s @ 107MPH 2.4X 60' at only 4.5psi of boost...2800ft with a 31XXlb car...mind you this was with a 48mm turbo...so?
I guess we will have this debate one day :D sooner or later you guys will come to a conclusion our heads will render this "small dogs" of a turbo not worth their 'weight in gold'...
I am not...repeat I am not against running that big of a unit, but it seems to be a trend for the wrong reasons...'armed to the teeth' this turbo calls for 25+ in pressure...I digress [img]graemlins/love.gif[/img]

['94firebirdv6]

anyway....
got an email from tiago again. he sold the 3.4 kit but will adapt a "universal" kit to fit a 3.4 for me. as for turbo size he said: "I can
&gt;put a new To4E with 61mm wheel on it if you want. I can do that for
&gt;the price we discussed."
i asked if it was the same thing as a t61 and he said: "it is still a hybrid, but with a 61mm wheel, T3 turbine, for the fast spool"

what do you guys think? is that a good choice?
thanks

[nocutt]

Originally posted by '94firebirdv6:
anyway....
"I can put a new To4E with 61mm wheel on it if you want. I can do that for;the price we discussed."
i asked if it was the same thing as a t61 and he said: "it is still a hybrid, but with a 61mm wheel, T3 turbine, for the fast spool"

what do you guys think? is that a good choice?
thanks

A standard t04e will come with the 2.75" or 3"in /2"out...which 61mm turbo wheel is going in? I don't even think that matters...the std garrett comp.wheel should be about 90mm exd...meaning the housing will have to be bored out seriously to accomodate that wheel...and then you don't get the full capability of the wheel because the housing will not want to flow over XXlb/min. You can ask to put a garrett .70 A/R comp housing which will typically have more "meat" and can still keep the 3"/2" config...
IMHO get that turbo with the wheel already in the turbo unit and leave the "souping of turbos" to those who are very comfortable with 'em...now if you feel it is cheaper to stuff a 61mm into a T04e then it is your perogative...beforewarned...the housing will be bored...a lot!!I will get the turbo put on sale here by shane before doing what you are suggesting...
HTHs

BTW forgive the partial thread hijack ;)

[Shane]

Originally posted by viper04af:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Shane:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by viper04af:
pat dyno 330 at 7 PSI

and 13.9 @ 104 with a 2.8 60 foot

me and the others have not had the chance

then 4 people havent proved it then have they? ;) </font>[/QUOTE]:rolleyes: ok rich boy :rolleyes:

i didn't mean by track times i think pats MPH and HP "prove" if you will. that the t-70 turbo is not to big for our motor.....

i was only saying it spool really well and make good power..... sorry we are all not sponsored like you are. jeez things take time </font>[/QUOTE]well u can prove any turbo will work on any car but is it necessary? Nope.

and im not sponsered nor a rich boy :(

[snatch]

Usually the Grand National guys first upgrade from a stock turbo is what is refered to as a TE44 or a TA49. They spool really well and itll take you into the high 11's on a stock engine.
I feel that something with the 44's exhaust housing or even the 52 matched with the 61 will be nice. I believe, but dont quote me on this, that they are running pretty well with what is called a GT6152 which is an upgraded 61 P trim wheel to the GT wheel out of the gt35 ballbearing turbo matched with the the PT52 exhaust wheel.
Shane

EDIT:
I did a little searching for you and this is a really good read. My .02 is, that is what you need to do, read a bunch! Only you know what you want out of your car so you have to decide what is right for you.
I want mine to be mildly built up to run high 11's on pump gas and low 11's on c16 or alchy. But I want it to rip on the street, while retaing its daily manners, cause that is really where Im gonna have to live with it.
Anyway sorry for the winded post.
http://www.turbobuick.com/forums/sho...highlight=t04e

[ August 10, 2005, 12:43 AM: Message edited by: snatch ]

[snatch]

Ok sorry, just wanted to add that the guy named d0n_3d in that post works for precision and he explains what I was trying to in post #17 pretty well.
Shane

[Turbo V6 Camaro]

Originally posted by Shane:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by viper04af:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Shane:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by viper04af:
pat dyno 330 at 7 PSI

and 13.9 @ 104 with a 2.8 60 foot

me and the others have not had the chance

then 4 people havent proved it then have they? ;) </font>[/QUOTE]:rolleyes: ok rich boy :rolleyes:

i didn't mean by track times i think pats MPH and HP "prove" if you will. that the t-70 turbo is not to big for our motor.....

i was only saying it spool really well and make good power..... sorry we are all not sponsored like you are. jeez things take time </font>[/QUOTE]well u can prove any turbo will work on any car but is it necessary? Nope.

and im not sponsered nor a rich boy :( </font>[/QUOTE]last you told me you was?

Any way all i'm saying is the T70 is not to big for our cars stock....... if you plan on doing more to your motor later... the spool is nice and the power is nice

i look AT MANY MANY for turbos for my car..... cuae s i want big HP numbers for the track and dyno and still want ed to be able to have fun on the street...... 4 PSI come in like less then a second in first gear....

even if you are leaving the car stock the comperesstion map for the T-70 is perfect.... from the effency is for low and high boost it stays right in the center of the graph from about 3 psi to about 25 PSI

http://www.turbocalculator.com/compressor-maps/t70.jpg

i looked at the T-72 and its just to much.....
I looked lower down the line and they was better for the lower boost... i plan on running 12psi most of the time.... so the T-70 is right in the middle and does vary well at 7-10 PSI also

i'm no pro but IMHO this is one of the better choice's....... i didn't just go get the biggest turbo i can find and throw it on there lol

[ August 10, 2005, 09:04 AM: Message edited by: viper04af ]

[snatch]

Edit checked your site.

[ August 10, 2005, 11:54 AM: Message edited by: snatch ]