133 intake air temp

[jessica2112]

Thanks for the link. I'm just checking everything out. I have # 36 injectors and a new PCM, but I still don't think I'm getting the gains that I should. I'm checking into tuning. The PCM is tuned for the injectors and all, but the car is still sluggish. Exactly where is your 2.5" tubing? The gains down in the lower RPM is what I'm after right now. I have the same Intake/discharge set up as you I believe. Stock intake location and powerdyne tubing. I'm not sure on the output. It has a nylon piece of tubing on the outlet and then into a metal 90 degree tube then the other 90 to the TB. Is this where you have 2.5? Oh, I have never "hauled ***" when I punched mine- Thanks, Jessica

[ August 19, 2005, 09:57 AM: Message edited by: jessica2112 ]

[grayman]

I think your car has a bigger issue other than the the diameter of discharge tubing. There are pics of my discharge setup on my site.

It is basically 2.5" from the blower discharge to a 2.5 to 3.25 reducer elbow at the TB.

It would be nice to figure out what is going on with your car to say the least. from a dead stop if i put the pedal down the tires light up and the back end spins sideways. BIG cloud of rubber smoke. I have to ease into the pedal to get the car rolling just a bit and then punch it to get a better launch otherwise I am wasting time just spinning the wheels. your car should be pretty similar.

did you ever switch the coil packs around to see if the 'miss' follows a particualar coil pack?

[jessica2112]

Nope no miss. No codes at all. If I step on the gas, its just like a stock launch, nothing to write home about. In general, the acceleration throughout the powerband is bad... Always been that way. The PCM didnt help any. Nor the injectors, but at least I dont have to worry about the FMU anymore. Coil packs are fine, new plugs and wires, everythings normal. I don't get it. Maybe for some reason the sc is bad. Maybe thats why it was sold to begin with. Im beginning to wonder. I have never seen this performanc e everyone else gets from these. I don't know why my car is such a problem, but it sure runs slow as ****. I get six pounds on the boost gauge, sounds good, but accelerates like a na car. Honestly, after the injectors and PCM, if it doesnt get with it soon, Im pulling it. Too much money for nothing.
I am sorry, but it angers me to no end hearing all of these good things about how everyones car is so fast with these. Honestly Greyman, If I put my car up against ANY N/A car on this board, I would put my money on IT.
Lets see here,
SC 1,500
Rebuild 300
Intense PCM 200
Injectors #36 85
Headers 550
Exaust 200
Hose for intake 39
LSD 3:42's 500 (shipping included)
Postage 100
Labor on exaust 110
180 thermostat 10
Crankshaft learn 69 (dealer) for PCM
Gauges 200
Total 3853


Performance gains: not worth discussing
This is why I am upset.

[ August 19, 2005, 04:49 PM: Message edited by: jessica2112 ]

[RedFrk13]

Do you have autotap or anything to scan your car for KR, o2 levels, etc. If not, you def need to find that information out since you could be getting lots of knock, which could pull all your timing and power.

[jessica2112]

Nope, and not to be rude, but please no one post get HP tuners. Even if I had it, I dont know how to use it. The mod money influx into this car has stopped until it either runs right, or is sold. I am really at wits end. THere comes a time to call it off, and I think I have just about gotten there. Also, why does everyones elses work right without messing around with it so much? I just dont understand..... :(
Well, just found a dyno shop, 589 dollars, here in Boca. I guess that's about all I can do at this point-

[ August 19, 2005, 05:29 PM: Message edited by: jessica2112 ]

[Turbo V6 Camaro]

umm boost leak?

when they rebiuld the PD did they rebiuld it with a revers rotation like it should be?

hold your hand on it and rev the car......... make sure its blowing air........

KR can cause ALOT of power loss..........

the IC if to small will rob power, too big it robs power also......... usally at least 2 psi boost loss

on a sc you can't up the boost where a turbo you dont really notice cause that wastgat opens by its source.....

umm
if you dont want to get HPT then find someone in fl with one. even it its a v8 one you can still scan with it.......

you know in 99-02 they had problem with the maf seeing to much air to fast and cutting the car to 2000 RPM max......

hows your fuel pump ? how long since you installed a new fuel filter?

theres so much stuff it could be it hard to say without the info you need to trouble shoot it.

[jessica2112]

No boost leak, correct rotation (it blows air, thats all I know), KR don't know No IC, don't know anyone in Fl with tuners, don't know about the MAF, but it's never cut the power on me like that, fuel pump is good, new filter when I installed the injectors. (yesterday).
New plugs, wires- coils OK.
I can't think of anything else. The PCM was tuned from my mod list at Intense.
At least the speedometer is finally right.

[Turbo V6 Camaro]

Originally posted by jessica2112:
No boost leak, correct rotation (it blows air, thats all I know), KR don't know No IC, don't know anyone in Fl with tuners, don't know about the MAF, but it's never cut the power on me like that, fuel pump is good, new filter when I installed the injectors. (yesterday).
New plugs, wires- coils OK.
I can't think of anything else. The PCM was tuned from my mod list at Intense.
At least the speedometer is finally right.

well 133deg intake temps for 6 psi of boost its REALLY low for the temps fl has right now.

at 90F and 6 psi of boost with 75% SC eff. you intake temp should be around ~170

[jessica2112]

This is where I am going to get it tuned as soon as I can, since I work and need the car.
http://www.srcracing.com

[grayman]

Good luck with the shop tune.

Hopefully they can figure some things out...not just tune with an odd running car.

becarefull if they start trying to sell you parts. you may very well need some parts replaced, but you don't need 'fancy' parts to get that supercharger working. example...you don't need an MSD ignition system, nor some accell hardware. you said your coil packs are good.... basically the stock ignition system is rather robust and reliable. it is enough to handle the mods on your car. if something is broken that is a different story...but no need to replace something that isn't broken.

all in all you have headers and new plug wires and stuff. hopefully they can find out that your (example) MAF is bad (for sure...no guesswork...no buying parts you don't need...) and then you get the new maf put in...they tune the car...and you are faster than me. that would be awesome.

Sorry to see you going through this mess. I hope it turns out good.