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Ok, this whole forum is wierd. It seems kids do not know what they want to do. I see all these people claiming they have these brand name mods they paid thousands of dollars for, and there car still runs 16's and 15's, and then they mod there car and they say! "Oh this little thing gave me X ammount of hp and took off .1 on my 1/4, now i run 15.6" but really, that sounds like a ricer to me. Are any of you kids actually reading about how an engine works? and how to put power to the ground? our engines have alot of potential yet people arnt reaching them because they are wasting there money and falling short to marketing schemes that claim HP. Alot of kids i see here are either posers or not very educated in the automotive area. some here are very smart and probably know loads more than me. So im not going to say im like the god ego of cars. im constantly learning too. but i notice alot of people that learn and get stuck on BS, they dont quite understand fully.
Forced induction can be complicated. engines like the 4G63 and SR20DET and Type T 3.8 are specifically built for boost. forged rods pistons, strong bolts, strong crankshaft balanced, a cam specifically made for boost.
and engine that isnt made for boost wont last long with boost, same with nitrous, nitrous is just like forced induction. an engine not made to handle nitrous can blow pistons rings rods and even the block if its that weak, though it would take quite a large ammount of boost to break a 3.8 iron block, the powerdyne is made for low boost thats why it breaks when people try to modify it to spool faster. if you want to spend a couple grand on that go ahead, i think its a waste, 50 to 75 hp is nuthing, you could buy a LT1 z28 for cheap and have that kind of power. People should start thinking about swapping the GN motor into the f-body if you think its a waste i can tell you think, the 3.8 gn is a hell of alot stronger than a LS1 motor, the LS1 motor is lovely and likes bolt ons, but if you want boost go with a 3.8.
With the N/A route the 3.8 V6 needs more displacement. why not bore .30 over to a 4.1 then go with high compression pistons, good rods, good bolts, ported heads and intake? why go out spend money on crap that claims HP? Why not study how an engine works? Then modify, havent any of you kids heard of a machine shop?
even the import kids are making cars faster than us because they are swapping the stock N/A engines for a built forced induction engine. look what they are doing to the N/A Nissans and the N/A eclipses.
Spending money on expensive exhausts, chips, intakes, expensive suspension that is made to handle over 400 pounds of torque and HP and your car is only making 220 hp if that is a waste. because the factory suspension parts that you can still order are less expensive and excellent to use. people arnt concerened about there rear ends breaking on a stock car or suspension going on there stock car because it wont untill you beat it. people are concerned about the camaros rear end when they modify the engine to over 450 hp and over 500 pounds of torque.
I hate to say it but alot of the kids on here are ricers, i used to want to mod my car too like them with all this neat **** i thought i needed until i read more about my car and asked people that owned them for many years. i thought to myself and studied engines for swapping and again i thought to myself, why build up the 3.8 v6 when they already made a 3.8 v6 that is built for boost and many can be found everywhere? the 3.8 Buick GN...
People will tell you the 3.8 buick GN is a whole totally different engine. LOL
its the same block as the L36, just like the L67 in the GTP its the same block. its True, Internals are way different! So? And?
Hmmm I wonder who buick is associated with? well not ford or dodge/chrysler. I wonder!???????
Infact you can bolt on the blower from the L67 onto your L36 without any problems as far as the engine you just need the top end from the L67(intake/heads and such.), it will bolt onto your L36, space is a problem in some cars, :( but you can work around thoughs types of things with creativity.
Also, you can put a FWD 3.8 into your RWD car, i suggest you people that disagree with me, buy a FWD 3.8 and RWD 3.8 and tell me whats the HUGE Terrible Horrible difference which makes it impossible and so filthy difficult to accomplish? if you tell me it wont work i suggest you read a book called "common sense and problem solving for dumbies"
Well i dont see why you kids are trying to modify the performence on your cars, why dont you kids jsut make your cars look good, the interior and exterior forums are looking weak. where the custom interior and exterior man??!~!!! If your going to make your car fast make it fast have a plan, if your going to make it look good make it look good. dont do both at the same time. you wont get anywhere and by the time you do you will be sick of your car and want a better car. [img]smile.gif[/img]
Forced induction can be complicated. engines like the 4G63 and SR20DET and Type T 3.8 are specifically built for boost. forged rods pistons, strong bolts, strong crankshaft balanced, a cam specifically made for boost.
and engine that isnt made for boost wont last long with boost, same with nitrous, nitrous is just like forced induction. an engine not made to handle nitrous can blow pistons rings rods and even the block if its that weak, though it would take quite a large ammount of boost to break a 3.8 iron block, the powerdyne is made for low boost thats why it breaks when people try to modify it to spool faster. if you want to spend a couple grand on that go ahead, i think its a waste, 50 to 75 hp is nuthing, you could buy a LT1 z28 for cheap and have that kind of power. People should start thinking about swapping the GN motor into the f-body if you think its a waste i can tell you think, the 3.8 gn is a hell of alot stronger than a LS1 motor, the LS1 motor is lovely and likes bolt ons, but if you want boost go with a 3.8.
With the N/A route the 3.8 V6 needs more displacement. why not bore .30 over to a 4.1 then go with high compression pistons, good rods, good bolts, ported heads and intake? why go out spend money on crap that claims HP? Why not study how an engine works? Then modify, havent any of you kids heard of a machine shop?
even the import kids are making cars faster than us because they are swapping the stock N/A engines for a built forced induction engine. look what they are doing to the N/A Nissans and the N/A eclipses.
Spending money on expensive exhausts, chips, intakes, expensive suspension that is made to handle over 400 pounds of torque and HP and your car is only making 220 hp if that is a waste. because the factory suspension parts that you can still order are less expensive and excellent to use. people arnt concerened about there rear ends breaking on a stock car or suspension going on there stock car because it wont untill you beat it. people are concerned about the camaros rear end when they modify the engine to over 450 hp and over 500 pounds of torque.
I hate to say it but alot of the kids on here are ricers, i used to want to mod my car too like them with all this neat **** i thought i needed until i read more about my car and asked people that owned them for many years. i thought to myself and studied engines for swapping and again i thought to myself, why build up the 3.8 v6 when they already made a 3.8 v6 that is built for boost and many can be found everywhere? the 3.8 Buick GN...
People will tell you the 3.8 buick GN is a whole totally different engine. LOL
its the same block as the L36, just like the L67 in the GTP its the same block. its True, Internals are way different! So? And?
Hmmm I wonder who buick is associated with? well not ford or dodge/chrysler. I wonder!???????
Infact you can bolt on the blower from the L67 onto your L36 without any problems as far as the engine you just need the top end from the L67(intake/heads and such.), it will bolt onto your L36, space is a problem in some cars, :( but you can work around thoughs types of things with creativity.
Also, you can put a FWD 3.8 into your RWD car, i suggest you people that disagree with me, buy a FWD 3.8 and RWD 3.8 and tell me whats the HUGE Terrible Horrible difference which makes it impossible and so filthy difficult to accomplish? if you tell me it wont work i suggest you read a book called "common sense and problem solving for dumbies"
Well i dont see why you kids are trying to modify the performence on your cars, why dont you kids jsut make your cars look good, the interior and exterior forums are looking weak. where the custom interior and exterior man??!~!!! If your going to make your car fast make it fast have a plan, if your going to make it look good make it look good. dont do both at the same time. you wont get anywhere and by the time you do you will be sick of your car and want a better car. [img]smile.gif[/img]
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