my first dyno run

[ssms5411]

i just got back from the dyno shop, here are my #'s 282hp and 304tq. I was running about 8psi. My intake temps were about 120 to 150. I have a intercooler that I'm still waiting to put on, so that should lower my temp. alot. I wasn't paying too much attention to my rpm gauge so I was letting off at 5700 rpms. But in 4th gear at 5700 rpms my speed was at 129 mph. So I guess Hptuners too care of my speed limiter. Next time I'll run it up to my cut off of 6200 rpms. Between 3500 rpms and 5000 rpms I was running extremly rich, down in the 10's and 9's. My fisrt run I made 275hp and 289tq, then I tried to lean it up a bit. It still ran down in the 9 1n 10's but I gained 10hp and 15tq. I know there is alot more in it but I'm not to sure about what tables I need to mess with so I just stopped there. The guy at the dyno shop said if I lean it out some more it should be well over 300hp. I was going to post my graph but I don't know how to do it. So if I can email it to someone and they could post it for me that would be great. Also if someone can tell me what tables I need to edit so I can lean it out some more. Thanks Steve

[97 30th RS]

good numbers. When you get that intercooler on that should get you over 300 rwhp. So isn't that about 360 ish at the crank?

[FireFighter]

Nice man, you have the same cam I had.

[1DangerousV6]

nice #s ..cant wait to see after you tweak it and get the intercool on there [img]smile.gif[/img]

[phoenix64]

Sweet numbers, can't wait till you get it tuned perfectly.

[ssms5411]

Anyone know what tables I need to use, at the dyno I used V6base vs ECT in the PE to lean it out. I just wanted to know if that was the right table to use and if there are any others. Thanks Steve

[GN-T66]

Tuning cars without extensive tuning experience is dangerous business. If you're even asking what tables need to be edited, then you shouldnt be doing it. Not trying to be mean, but it's the truth. You dont want to blow up your car.

[OneQuickV6]

Originally posted by GN-T66:
Tuning cars without extensive tuning experience is dangerous business. If you're even asking what tables need to be edited, then you shouldnt be doing it. Not trying to be mean, but it's the truth. You dont want to blow up your car.

Agreed!

[tdz16]

I don't understand why you guys can't just give some helpful suggestions but always have to belittle people who don't know as much. For the past few months I've been reading/posting and its kinda gotten silly now. I think you, GN, are really in the know about this stuff and I would love to get advice from you. C'mon, can't we just help each other out? We all have different experiences that we should share so we all don't make the same mistakes. I really agree that tuning is risky without a lot of experience...but answer me this: how do you get experience? Through trial and error. With the proper diagnostic tools such as a wideband O2 and various guages to monitor the engine, slow changes to computer tuning can be a good experience. He just needs to do a lot of reading and research on how to interpret the guages and wideband so as not to damage or harm the engine. If not for anything, please just take this entry for what it is, that I'm not trying to make anyone mad, and just want us to help each other out. Good luck with the tuning guys.
~Tom

[nocutt]

Originally posted by tdz16:
I don't understand why you guys can't just give some helpful suggestions but always have to belittle people who don't know as much. For the past few months I've been reading/posting and its kinda gotten silly now. I think you, GN, are really in the know about this stuff and I would love to get advice from you. C'mon, can't we just help each other out? We all have different experiences that we should share so we all don't make the same mistakes. I really agree that tuning is risky without a lot of experience...but answer me this: how do you get experience? Through trial and error. With the proper diagnostic tools such as a wideband O2 and various guages to monitor the engine, slow changes to computer tuning can be a good experience. He just needs to do a lot of reading and research on how to interpret the guages and wideband so as not to damage or harm the engine. If not for anything, please just take this entry for what it is, that I'm not trying to make anyone mad, and just want us to help each other out. Good luck with the tuning guys.
~Tom

MUTHAloving WERD!

[Mighty Thor]

That's awesome numbers Steve. With the intercooler you should see another 30-40 more rwhp.

I don't know much about the tuning part. But guy who did the dyno, doesn't he do dyno tuning as well? He could help you out.

Headers are out of the question now do to Calif emission, but as soon as I get mine intercooled by the middle of this year, I will dyno and see if I'm close to you. Then I move on to GT cam (smog legal) and a 2.7 pulley.

Congrats man.

[ssms5411]

If you guys don't want to give any advice, thats fine. Who knows, maybe I would blow it up. The guy who knows alot about Hptuners wasn't there, the guy who was there only knew about tuning Fords. He gave me the # of the guy, so I'll just give him a call when I go back next week. Thor good luck with yours. Depending on how much boost you want you might try a 2.6" pulley. I was seeing a spike to 10psi at first then stayed at 8psi from 3000 rpms to 5700 rpms. Just a little info. for ya.

[98Camaro3.8]

Originally posted by tdz16:
I don't understand why you guys can't just give some helpful suggestions but always have to belittle people who don't know as much. For the past few months I've been reading/posting and its kinda gotten silly now. I think you, GN, are really in the know about this stuff and I would love to get advice from you. C'mon, can't we just help each other out? We all have different experiences that we should share so we all don't make the same mistakes. I really agree that tuning is risky without a lot of experience...but answer me this: how do you get experience? Through trial and error. With the proper diagnostic tools such as a wideband O2 and various guages to monitor the engine, slow changes to computer tuning can be a good experience. He just needs to do a lot of reading and research on how to interpret the guages and wideband so as not to damage or harm the engine. If not for anything, please just take this entry for what it is, that I'm not trying to make anyone mad, and just want us to help each other out. Good luck with the tuning guys.
~Tom

If somebody says "I'm going to buy a cam tomorrow and install it this weekend. By the way, what does a pushrod do", do you think they should install it and try to figure it out? Should we tell them what it is and let them tear the engine apart? Or perhaps tell them they shouldn't be doing it?

[1DangerousV6]

Originally posted by ssms5411:
If you guys don't want to give any advice, thats fine. Who knows, maybe I would blow it up. The guy who knows alot about Hptuners wasn't there, the guy who was there only knew about tuning Fords. He gave me the # of the guy, so I'll just give him a call when I go back next week. Thor good luck with yours. Depending on how much boost you want you might try a 2.6" pulley. I was seeing a spike to 10psi at first then stayed at 8psi from 3000 rpms to 5700 rpms. Just a little info. for ya.

look up arthansen ..he was telling me how to correctly change the A/F ratio using a wide band o2 and HP Tuners..i cant seem to locate the post though [img]smile.gif[/img]

[tdz16]

Originally posted by 98Camaro3.8:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by tdz16:
I don't understand why you guys can't just give some helpful suggestions but always have to belittle people who don't know as much. For the past few months I've been reading/posting and its kinda gotten silly now. I think you, GN, are really in the know about this stuff and I would love to get advice from you. C'mon, can't we just help each other out? We all have different experiences that we should share so we all don't make the same mistakes. I really agree that tuning is risky without a lot of experience...but answer me this: how do you get experience? Through trial and error. With the proper diagnostic tools such as a wideband O2 and various guages to monitor the engine, slow changes to computer tuning can be a good experience. He just needs to do a lot of reading and research on how to interpret the guages and wideband so as not to damage or harm the engine. If not for anything, please just take this entry for what it is, that I'm not trying to make anyone mad, and just want us to help each other out. Good luck with the tuning guys.
~Tom

If somebody says "I'm going to buy a cam tomorrow and install it this weekend. By the way, what does a pushrod do", do you think they should install it and try to figure it out? Should we tell them what it is and let them tear the engine apart? Or perhaps tell them they shouldn't be doing it? </font>[/QUOTE]As it is, I was talking about tuning in particular. Even if I weren't; say it were about a cam. I would tell the person that they should really read up on it a little more before they attempted it. I'd tell them to talk to some shop techs and see if they have any advice. I wouldn't make them feel completely incompetent and tell them to just hand the cam and lifters over to a shop and let them do it. What is learned from that? All I'm saying is we should just support each other. Yeah, maybe some of the questions around the board are just retarded, but I know at one point I asked those questions too. We're the guys that help those people learn what is right and wrong when it comes to these cars. Can't we at least be nice in doing it, knowing we were once there? I'm addicted to this board because of the wealth of knowledge that gets posted here every day but there's always those few people who make you feel like **** in the meantime and as if you know nothing. I don't know about you guys, but when I post I want it to help guys out and give them a "I can do this with the right knowledge" attitude when they're done reading. I don't know what else to tell ya besides the fact that I'd love to see us be a little more understanding in our replies to fellow members and really offer that helping/guiding hand. I'm sorry this has taken up this much of the post and good luck with the tuning. My bit of advice: Read A LOT on hptuners.com message board. SO MUCH INFO!!! Take care....
~Tom