my first dyno run

[phoenix64]

Originally posted by ssms5411:
If you guys don't want to give any advice, thats fine. Who knows, maybe I would blow it up. The guy who knows alot about Hptuners wasn't there, the guy who was there only knew about tuning Fords. He gave me the # of the guy, so I'll just give him a call when I go back next week. Thor good luck with yours. Depending on how much boost you want you might try a 2.6" pulley. I was seeing a spike to 10psi at first then stayed at 8psi from 3000 rpms to 5700 rpms. Just a little info. for ya.

I'd love to help you out, but I don't know anything about your set up. I'm running boost with no FMU. If your using an FMU, it makes it very hard to use HPtuners, because they don't add fuel in a constant or predictable manner.

Oh and GN was right to a point, I should have blown my engine in the first week of having the turbo. But I was running 14psi(wrong wastegate spring), no boost gauge, no intercooler, and no wideband. I knew better, but was in a hurry. I didn't know the first thing about tuning, but I do now, personaly if my engine blows up tomorow, it was still worth it. But thats just me.

If you go slow make one change at a time, you'll be in good shape. My problem was always being in a hurry for the magic fix. Its a long slow process. Gets better by the day though.

[ February 04, 2005, 12:32 AM: Message edited by: phoenix64 ]

[GN-T66]

Originally posted by tdz16:
I don't understand why you guys can't just give some helpful suggestions but always have to belittle people who don't know as much. For the past few months I've been reading/posting and its kinda gotten silly now. I think you, GN, are really in the know about this stuff and I would love to get advice from you. C'mon, can't we just help each other out? We all have different experiences that we should share so we all don't make the same mistakes. I really agree that tuning is risky without a lot of experience...but answer me this: how do you get experience? Through trial and error. With the proper diagnostic tools such as a wideband O2 and various guages to monitor the engine, slow changes to computer tuning can be a good experience. He just needs to do a lot of reading and research on how to interpret the guages and wideband so as not to damage or harm the engine. If not for anything, please just take this entry for what it is, that I'm not trying to make anyone mad, and just want us to help each other out. Good luck with the tuning guys.
~Tom

My goal is not to belittle you. My only point is this.. tuning is incredibly indepth, and until you've done it and seen it done by someone who really (and I mean really) knows what they're doing, you have no idea how incredibly complex it is, and how many interwoven factors there are to consider. I cant effectivly tell you how to tune your car over the internet. One thing you learn in tuning, is that no two cars are alike, and that there are no hard fast rules of tuning, as far as what works 100% of the time and what doesnt. Every car is different. If I was in person with you, with the following tools in hand (tuning software on laptop pc, independent wideband 02 sensor hooked up to car in y-pipe, scanning software that is constantly monitoring all of the car's sensors and what changes you're making, and preferably a mustang dynomometer) then I could indeed help you. At least you're tuning a blower car, which is very linear in execution, much the same as a normally aspirated car. this will make tuning much easier than say a comparable turbo car. I wish you luck, but again, your car will be much better tuned if you have someone with experience tune it. They've already learned the lessons of tuning, and what works and what doesnt. and they've probably blown up a car or two along the way. My final point. The smartest person in the world can offer you advice on the internet, but if they arent there with the car as it is being tuned, then they're already at an extreme disadvantage.

[tdz16]

GN, i didn't mean to get on your case or anything. If you took it that way I'm sorry. I just thought we could be a little nicer in the way we give our advice...just a little more positive. You have to see what I mean by like everyone jumping on each other when someone makes a mistake. Good luck with your cars and if you ever need any advice I'd be glad to offer it.
~Tom

[phoenix64]

Very well put GN, my base tune changed completly after I added the intercooler. Definitly get a wideband, its saved me more than once. I'm biased, but I think you can do it yourself, just get a wideband and go SLOW. Most people look at tuning as some kind of "black magic". Once you get the hang of it its not bad.

[GN-T66]

Originally posted by tdz16:
Good luck with your cars and if you ever need any advice I'd be glad to offer it.
~Tom

thanks, but just out of curiousity, what advice are you going to offer me???

[tdz16]

I'm sorry, I was just under the assumption that you were like the rest of us and didn't know everything. I was just saying that if you ever needed to know something, I'd be glad to try to help you find an answer. Take care.
~Tom