Why not 3.8 turbo?

[toast]

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by daWhoady:
#)$%*& $#%& $%()*!!!!! :rolleyes:




not exactly<hr></blockquote>

Ok both engines are 231ci (3.8liters). Both share the same bore and stroke and both are 90degree buick devered V6s. They are bascally the same except the series 2 is an updated updated version from the ornginal 3.8 which was derived from an older buick v6 from which that was orngnally a buick V8 with 2 less pistons. If you don't belive me please go to www.gnttype.org and read up on the 3.8. The 3800 series2 is still a buick engine not a chevy unlike the 2.8, 3.1, 3.4 which are the only 60degree V6s that Gm has. A front mount turbo can be used on a 3.8 but what you need is A/C brackets from the FWD verison of this engine and also the water pump needs to be changed too, along with moving the heater core water lines some where eles. But it can be done. I belive it would be easier to do this than a TT setup that can cause more trouble than what it is worth.

[daWhoady]

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr> Originally posted by toast:
Ok both engines are 231ci (3.8liters). Both share the same bore and stroke and both are 90degree buick devered V6s. They are bascally the same except the series 2 is an updated updated version from the ornginal 3.8 which was derived from an older buick v6 from which that was orngnally a buick V8 with 2 less pistons. If you don't belive me please go to www.gnttype.org and read up on the 3.8. The 3800 series2 is still a buick engine not a chevy unlike the 2.8, 3.1, 3.4 which are the only 60degree V6s that Gm has. A front mount turbo can be used on a 3.8 but what you need is A/C brackets from the FWD verison of this engine and also the water pump needs to be changed too, along with moving the heater core water lines some where eles. But it can be done. I belive it would be easier to do this than a TT setup that can cause more trouble than what it is worth. <hr></blockquote>

The two engine are about the same size almost, but the parts are different. The engine bays are larger. GN's have enough room to run a down pipe. The guy in the magazine spent crap load of money to get that engine in his car and running right.

Now you made some good points about the AC brackets and moving some shizz around. I just don't know if I want to do a lot flippin around on my engine. But it will be nice if it's not too difficult, then we can have some room free up for some exhaust routing.

[daWhoady]

<blockquote>quote:</font><hr> Originally posted by toast:
A front mount turbo can be used on a 3.8 but what you need is A/C brackets from the FWD verison of this engine and also the water pump needs to be changed too, along with moving the heater core water lines some where eles. But it can be done. <hr></blockquote>

Where did you come up with that? Did you read it somewhere or come up with that yourself. It seems to me you know what you are talking about and you have some reasonable insight in this.

If that is true, you da man [img]graemlins/burnout.gif[/img]

[toast]

True Da, the old 3.8 and the new 3.8 have very different internals and the heads are different also but common stuff for both engines are the same, even the fireing order. Well i was studying my engine in my car and i also looked at a buick regal and saw how things where lined up in there. In the FWD version the A/C is where are PS pump is and the PS pump is moved where it is right blow the alt, next to the W/P. It also looks like coolant lines run from the oppsite side of the W/P and has different connectons. But i think it might work. You would have to find a late model W-body for donor parts but it will free up alot of room on the passenger side of the engine. If you can find a good welder you can have custom made headers made up for it out of stainless steel. Just some ideas for ya but it can be done one way or the other. :D