powerdyne question

[NCState98]

You got it grayman. Jessica, everything he listed are the main essentials that I have done to my car.

I have also added that extra fuel pump since I am running the higher boost pulley. If you DO go that route, there is a fuel filter under the car behind the back drivers seat where you can attach that pump without cutting lines.

On the fuel pressure gauge, an electric is atleast double the price, but keep in mind if you get a mechanical gauge you'll need to get a fuel pressure isolator that allows you to run another liquid other than gas into your interior to the gauge. Believe me, I went this route and saved some money, but it took forever for me to get around to the tricky plumbing associated with the isolator rather than running wires to an electric gauge.

This is fun. Let us know anything else that needs to be cleared up.

Brandon

[jessica2112]

How do you bypass the PVC? and what in the world is Jon_D power rap? A white rap group? If I mess with the pvc, will the computer freak out" This must be the step that keeps you from blowing your dipstick out. Jessica [img]smile.gif[/img]

[99camaro99]

I don't want to start any flamefest but this is how I see it. The supercharger route sounds like a fun project, however I think there are cheaper methods where money can be more well spent to satisfy your "need for speed." Possibly try a custom turbo or nitrous because either one will cost you less than the powerdyne unit and will give similar, if not better, performance. Last I checked that unit is above $3,500. If neither of these two routes seem feasible there's always the option to try another motor in another vehicle. Just something to consider since a supercharger is not a cheap mod nor a simple bolt-on. You also say this is your daily driver. I've always made it a point not to do anything drastic to a car I know I need to get me around town.

[NCState98]

Well, she's looking for something relatively straightforward... not a custom turbo. The powerdyne IS a fairly simple bolt-on... atleast moreso than the turbo route. She is also looking at a used kit for $2000. Finally, if she reasearches the supercharger and has a good understanding of what is going on under her hood (which she is), then it will be perfect as a daily driver.

[jessica2112]

Turbos sound too complicated, and nitrus is just a 1 at a time pass. Im not at the dragstrip, im on the street (not racing) but I have ample oppertunities to let her wind up around where I live. And besides I'm tired of being afraid of little 4 bangers with college guys in them coming up to me and revving their engines and crap like "hey baby, too bad that car doesn't move, my car HOPS" or "if I win do I get the car and you?" Id just LOVE to pound their *** in the pavement. But I cant. my 3800 is almost stock, and I'm afraid to loose all the time. Lousy gear ratio, just 2 little mods. Pathetic. Jessica

[grayman]

http://home.comcast.net/~grayman99/guide.htm

[jessica2112]

Thank you greyman [img]smile.gif[/img] Have some reading to do_
Jessica [img]smile.gif[/img]

[blackFbird_98]

well just so that you realize that just because you put the supercharger on you will still get beat by a few ricer 4bangers :( but it will run fairly close to a stock V8 I have found, besides with the turbos it takes to long to spool imop and nos is a little risky unless it is done correct but even then I would still worry, but i even worry about roddin around with my 6lb supercharger , maybe i am just a woosy though

[jessica2112]

I realize that, but I think a ford escort could take me right now. It really is depressing. Sucha beautiful car, and just plain slow. I mean, it's faster than my 92 rs that had a 3.1, but I was hoping for something a little better. They had a red t/a v8 at the dealership, but I think I would be homeless if I bought it. But sometimes I wonder. The kicker was I really thought it had the y87 package. Maybe I should sell it. I don't know. I don't know how much it would be to put the what 3:43's 3:48's whatever, but I dont even have the right differential. I'm hoping to get that used powerdyne posted here, but my tax refund may not come in time. If I did the gear swap, for the gears, differential, installation and get my speedo on the money, it would not be worth it. Got an estimate? I'm sure it's expensive. The sc seemed to be the best improvement to make, to get a real difference without a turbo, or nitrus. Cam, headers and the longer pushrods wouldnt match it. Besides, that would mean tearing into the motor, which I don't want to do. I did that before and I ALWAYS had a gasket leak somewhere. Headers, waterpump, well, you get the idea. What do you all think about this. Am I nuts, or am I just being *****y. THanks, Jessica [img]graemlins/rant.gif[/img]

[99camaro99]

Originally posted by jessica2112:
Turbos sound too complicated...besides I'm tired of being afraid of little 4 bangers with college guys in them coming up to me and revving their engines and crap like

for part 1 it's easier than a supercharger (just plumbing under that hood isn't)

That powerdyne unit is NOT cheap and with just that you'll be running at best mid/high 13s and not near 105mph in the 1/4mi. That's my gripe is the cost and then the power you get. For $4000 I'd expect better than just squeaking into 13s in all honesty. Plus did we miss the part of my post about toying with a DAILY DRIVER. I wouldn't mess around too much with a ride I know I need to get me from Point A to Point B.

for part 2...can I try it out I'm really close to Boca. :D Mine's just a four banger [img]graemlins/wavey.gif[/img]

[99camaro99]

Originally posted by blackFbird_98:
well just so that you realize that just because you put the supercharger on you will still get beat by a few ricer 4bangers :( but it will run fairly close to a stock V8 I have found, besides with the turbos it takes to long to spool imop and nos is a little risky unless it is done correct but even then I would still worry, but i even worry about roddin around with my 6lb supercharger , maybe i am just a woosy though

he's got the right idea. For the $4000 price difference if you're still digging the whole F-body thing pick up a V8 and with the $4000 use that to cover the insurance difference. I will warn you in Boca...good luck insuring it. That's why I won't ride around with an LS1 in that area.

[blackFbird_98]

no..no..no stay with the V6 for insurance reasons as well as gas mileage but there are many things you can do other than a supercharger or turbo but to see the look on the faces of guys when they found out you beat them with a V6 is priceless but dont tell them you have a supercharger just tell them it is gear drive on your car most people are ignorant when it comes to that............but it will be close to 4000 or maybe a little more :(

[97rs4life]

Yea but if you can get a SC for 2k, then you only need like 300 bucks for a 3.42 Posi rear end. So 2300 and you will be well in the 13s. Then add some other bolt ons and such and you will be sitting pretty good without getting into your engine. For 3k you can get a ton of stuff for your car as long as you were to buy the sc for 2k.

[grayman]

Concerning Y87 package: Just because you do not have a Y87 car does not mean that you don't have a 3.42 rear differential. You can still figure out what rear diff ratio your car has from the door codes. My car is an example of having 3.42 gear but not Y87.


Concerning cam and valvetrain modifications:
I already figured you did not want to dig into your pretty low mileage engine so I never brought it up. But, at full price for powerdyne you could get major internal improvements to the engine and still come out ahead. With a super charger, though, especialy if you get it at half price, you can take it off the car and sell it seperatly when it is time for you to sell the car. You can't do that with cam mods.

Concerning insurance: Yep, expensive to be young with a fast car. Get a qoute to insure an LS1 V8 1999 camaro. Compare the difference between that and what you pay for the v6. The amount is 'free money' for mods to the v6...if you are positive you would go out and buy a v8 car....know what I mean?

Performance: It still takes a bit o' torque and HP to get our 3500 pound cars moving as compred to a small 4 cyl car...but with the SC you will have a totally different driving experience. Your gas mileage will not suffer, either. :cool:

Um...of course my bad *** Firebird is my daily driver. The engine turns the accessories belt, the belt turns the supercharger pulley as well as the alternator, A/C, WP and Power steering...no big deal. All that extra exhaust is plumbed out of fat 3" aftermarket exhaust...no big deal.

I guess I wouldn't recommend a $4000 SC, though, unless someone was just plain rich. It will cost you 2000 or so to get valvetrain work done professionaly...(parts, labor, expensive tuning) so if you can get a SC for 2000 that pretty much bolts on with a few additional (very cool and very easy) supporting mods then that might be a good choice. Especially if you are committed to keeping the car and it's v6 and yet want it to be a real performer.

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[jessica2112]

Hello again. Well, I'm not sure about the sc, if it's gone before I get my tax return i'm back to square 1. What is the door code for the gear ratio on my car? Where can you get a posi for 300? You guys must have good connections. Besides I cant put in a differential. God only knows how much that costs. Im full of questions huh. Sorry, just dont know a whole lot of car stuff, just enough to get me by. I'm OK under the hood and electrical, but that's it. You guys are the best. Jessica [img]smile.gif[/img]