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Don't worry beta testers, this does not affect you, but please read this anyways. I keep hearing rumors that the price on the kit is going up. Take into consideration that that kit that is offered up at FTFORCE.com and RKSport.com is about 4000.00 for a non intercooled kit.
THe kit coming from ATI made by Bill Mach will be intercooled, will run on the ribbed side of the belt. You won't need to constantly tighten it to get boost. This kit is built for the 3.8 and is not an adaptation. Running 7psi so far and i have no oil bursting into the engine bay and i have been driving it for the last couple days. It comes with a blow off valve that is of higher quality than the kits that are out there today. It comes with an external fuel pump AND an fmu. There is even PCM tuning available. All the metal pipes are powdercoated.
Here is what the new prices are looking like
7psi with no PCM tuning 4496.00
with a pcm tuning later (additional 500.00 later)
10 psi with pcm tuning 4996.00.
(There is no optional for 10psi since it requires pcm tuning for safe driving (we don't want the engine to blow up while you or your friends are in the car).
Now, these are only rumors. Nothing is set in stone, it could be less or more, but i will tell you one thing for sure it IS NOT going to be 4195.00
THE 4195.00 is only for beta testers. Remember the pcm tuning is an additionall 500.00 for testers and public alike.
THERE ARE ONLY 3 SPOTS LEFT if you want the lower price and Bill is only offering this up for another 2-3 weeks. Once he starts collecting money from the beta testers, this price will no longer be valid. Please contact me if you want to become a beta tester and i will send you the info sheet you need to fill out. ON TOP OF THAT, if you are a beta tester, you get an additional 50.00 off. SO the remainder of the payment you need to make after the 300.00 deposit is 3845.00 (this price does not include optional pcm tuning cost of 500.00)
Now as far as the tuning, I've already talked to Bill, and the guy that does tuning for Bill, and the guy who does the tuning will not budge on the price since he has to spend hours on each person's PCM individually because of VIN codes. Although we know what the setting's are, we can't mass produce the PCMs because everyone has their own VIN number. PLus each person has their own mods. Some have ehaust mods, some have different size tires, wheels, gears, thermostats...etc.
PLease don't get mad about the price of the kits. Like i said, its not set in stone. Its Bill's and ATI's choice in the end, not mine.
Personally, looking at the kits that are offered out there right now versus the quality and workmanship of Bill's kit and the options that come with it, i definately think the price is fair. Take into consideration alone that an intercooler from ati is 700.00. THis is a custom intercooler. Remember the kits out there right now don't have the intercooler and don't have the duct work to even adapt one. I am sure you will spend more than $700.00, just adapting one to it. So.... try adding 3800 + 800... thats about 4600 right there and Bill's price is only 300.00 with more boost, reliability and pcm tuning AND it will be intercooled, plus it comes with external fuel pump and FMU. Just add the numbers up.
[ May 28, 2003: Message edited by: BATMAN ]</p>
THe kit coming from ATI made by Bill Mach will be intercooled, will run on the ribbed side of the belt. You won't need to constantly tighten it to get boost. This kit is built for the 3.8 and is not an adaptation. Running 7psi so far and i have no oil bursting into the engine bay and i have been driving it for the last couple days. It comes with a blow off valve that is of higher quality than the kits that are out there today. It comes with an external fuel pump AND an fmu. There is even PCM tuning available. All the metal pipes are powdercoated.
Here is what the new prices are looking like
7psi with no PCM tuning 4496.00
with a pcm tuning later (additional 500.00 later)
10 psi with pcm tuning 4996.00.
(There is no optional for 10psi since it requires pcm tuning for safe driving (we don't want the engine to blow up while you or your friends are in the car).
Now, these are only rumors. Nothing is set in stone, it could be less or more, but i will tell you one thing for sure it IS NOT going to be 4195.00
THE 4195.00 is only for beta testers. Remember the pcm tuning is an additionall 500.00 for testers and public alike.
THERE ARE ONLY 3 SPOTS LEFT if you want the lower price and Bill is only offering this up for another 2-3 weeks. Once he starts collecting money from the beta testers, this price will no longer be valid. Please contact me if you want to become a beta tester and i will send you the info sheet you need to fill out. ON TOP OF THAT, if you are a beta tester, you get an additional 50.00 off. SO the remainder of the payment you need to make after the 300.00 deposit is 3845.00 (this price does not include optional pcm tuning cost of 500.00)
Now as far as the tuning, I've already talked to Bill, and the guy that does tuning for Bill, and the guy who does the tuning will not budge on the price since he has to spend hours on each person's PCM individually because of VIN codes. Although we know what the setting's are, we can't mass produce the PCMs because everyone has their own VIN number. PLus each person has their own mods. Some have ehaust mods, some have different size tires, wheels, gears, thermostats...etc.
PLease don't get mad about the price of the kits. Like i said, its not set in stone. Its Bill's and ATI's choice in the end, not mine.
Personally, looking at the kits that are offered out there right now versus the quality and workmanship of Bill's kit and the options that come with it, i definately think the price is fair. Take into consideration alone that an intercooler from ati is 700.00. THis is a custom intercooler. Remember the kits out there right now don't have the intercooler and don't have the duct work to even adapt one. I am sure you will spend more than $700.00, just adapting one to it. So.... try adding 3800 + 800... thats about 4600 right there and Bill's price is only 300.00 with more boost, reliability and pcm tuning AND it will be intercooled, plus it comes with external fuel pump and FMU. Just add the numbers up.
[ May 28, 2003: Message edited by: BATMAN ]</p>
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