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  • #16
    Actually its not THAT hard (worth it is completely in the eyes of the beholder), you get a Holden L67 blower (thats about the only hard part), from there the rest is just a relatively simple thought process and a few other carryover parts (assuming your starting with an L67 to begin with). The calibration isnt even that hard anymore, DHP can handle that now. I'll make the same offer I did on club GP if anyone wants to take on this project I'll be more than willing to help, I've done two already..
    Chris White<br />1989 Turbo Trans Am #70<br />2004 GTO - Procharged<br />2005 G6<br />2005 Equinox LT AWD

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    • #17
      <blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by GTPprix:
      Actually its not THAT hard (worth it is completely in the eyes of the beholder), you get a Holden L67 blower (thats about the only hard part), from there the rest is just a relatively simple thought process and a few other carryover parts (assuming your starting with an L67 to begin with). The calibration isnt even that hard anymore, DHP can handle that now. I'll make the same offer I did on club GP if anyone wants to take on this project I'll be more than willing to help, I've done two already..<hr></blockquote>

      Won't fit is not in my dictionary :D Thanks C-dub, getting tired of the OTHER board...lol!
      THE ORIGINAL 3800SII turbo...<b><i>NOW SERIES-III</i></b>

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      • #18
        Yeah I noticed you dont really post over there much anymore, too many whiny people sometimes! Hope your cars running good, If I make it to Cali anytime in the future I gotta see that turbocharged beast! [img]smile.gif[/img]
        Chris White<br />1989 Turbo Trans Am #70<br />2004 GTO - Procharged<br />2005 G6<br />2005 Equinox LT AWD

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        • #19
          <blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by GTPprix:
          I'll make the same offer I did on club GP if anyone wants to take on this project I'll be more than willing to help, I've done two already..<hr></blockquote>

          You have pictures?
          Robert - owner www.FirebirdV6.com/CamaroV6.com

          "Mid-life crisis? I'm way beyond that!"

          1996 Black Firebird GTxxxRam Air V6 w/ M5xxxwww.FirebirdGT.com

          Raven

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          • #20
            Of some of the components yes, of the finished cars, one was done internally in an enviroment where photography isnt exactly permitted, the other was the Fire and Ice firebird that made it to SEMA a few years back. The Fire and Ice was more of a hybrid, utilizing a Gen 2 Pre-Prod mockup of a Gen 3 Holden Blower, as well as one of the few remaining in-manifold intercoolers, the rest of those (2) went to kenne-bell for development (which they never did anything with).
            Chris White<br />1989 Turbo Trans Am #70<br />2004 GTO - Procharged<br />2005 G6<br />2005 Equinox LT AWD

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            • #21
              <blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by GTPprix:
              Of some of the components yes, of the finished cars, one was done internally in an enviroment where photography isnt exactly permitted, the other was the Fire and Ice firebird that made it to SEMA a few years back. The Fire and Ice was more of a hybrid, utilizing a Gen 2 Pre-Prod mockup of a Gen 3 Holden Blower, as well as one of the few remaining in-manifold intercoolers, the rest of those (2) went to kenne-bell for development (which they never did anything with).<hr></blockquote>

              Now you have my attention! LOL

              I am familar with the "F&I" car. It was reported to have been built just north of Milwaukee, but the phone co had no listing for the company.

              What photos do you have?
              Robert - owner www.FirebirdV6.com/CamaroV6.com

              "Mid-life crisis? I'm way beyond that!"

              1996 Black Firebird GTxxxRam Air V6 w/ M5xxxwww.FirebirdGT.com

              Raven

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              • #22
                Just some Misc parts and such, the only thing out of the ordinary really is the blower to be honest, everything else with the exception of the PCM and cal were off the shelf [img]smile.gif[/img] The car was built by a gentleman named Mike Flaharty (his business name for some reason escapes me, but he's in silver lake he did the body, nothing powertrain related) of Hurst Hauler fame. The engine came from a black development mule built in 1995 and revamped before the SEMA show in 2001, I was part of that process as were a few others before the mule was delivered to silver lake.
                Chris White<br />1989 Turbo Trans Am #70<br />2004 GTO - Procharged<br />2005 G6<br />2005 Equinox LT AWD

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                • #23
                  <blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by GTPprix:
                  Of some of the components yes, of the finished cars, one was done internally in an enviroment where photography isnt exactly permitted, the other was the Fire and Ice firebird that made it to SEMA a few years back. The Fire and Ice was more of a hybrid, utilizing a Gen 2 Pre-Prod mockup of a Gen 3 Holden Blower, as well as one of the few remaining in-manifold intercoolers, the rest of those (2) went to kenne-bell for development (which they never did anything with).<hr></blockquote>

                  Can we say sticky...
                  Chris did you post the pics of the M90 (holden) a couple of days or maybe I was looking at some old archives? It is a small world indeed...
                  [img]graemlins/thumbsup.gif[/img]
                  THE ORIGINAL 3800SII turbo...<b><i>NOW SERIES-III</i></b>

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                  • #24
                    <blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by GTPprix:
                    The engine came from a black development mule built in 1995 and revamped before the SEMA show in 2001, I was part of that process as were a few others before the mule was delivered to silver lake.<hr></blockquote>


                    On my site is a article from High Performance Pontiac April 1997. It has a black SC 3800 Firebird with a WS6 hood. Is this the original mule?

                    http://www.firebirdgt.com/SC%20Firebirds.htm
                    Robert - owner www.FirebirdV6.com/CamaroV6.com

                    "Mid-life crisis? I'm way beyond that!"

                    1996 Black Firebird GTxxxRam Air V6 w/ M5xxxwww.FirebirdGT.com

                    Raven

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                    • #25
                      Actually, the mule was just that a dusty beat up mule lol It had firebird fasicas and skirts. I remember seeing that T/A styled one though, there were 5-7 mule cars working on trying to develop that program and make it viable. It was a very interesting setup [img]smile.gif[/img] They toyed with that idea until late 97/early 98. I wish I could have taken some pictures of some of that stuff lol!
                      Chris White<br />1989 Turbo Trans Am #70<br />2004 GTO - Procharged<br />2005 G6<br />2005 Equinox LT AWD

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