The setup does work as they have dynoed LT1 and LS1 cars to over 500 plus rwhp, stock heads, cam, and only 6 psi of boost. It would fit a 3.8 very easily since it is a turbo instead of a muffler and it even has the stock inlet location. And you can buy the system with a methanol and water injection system to cool down the charge for even more power. I don't know if I would buy it but the ease of install is why the system sells I guess.
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their 500 rwhp dyno was on a LT1 with forged pistons but stock ehads and cam I believe. but it was more then 6 psi. I think I read neighboorhood of 14 psi with the water/methonol injection. Good, but onot really that great for what he COULD do.
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Its my experience that a turbo system that installs "easy" to a non turboed (and never meant to be turboed) car... should be looked at very closely. In other words.... somethin ain't right.
P.S: "Omfg that speed bump/driveway ripped off my turbo!!!!"
"... how do you fix a crushed turbo?"
"Ewww that isn't heat warpage..."
[ October 24, 2003: Message edited by: ReodDai ]</p>00\' firebird v6 5spd<br />201rwhp ---- 230 rwtq<br />\"Everyday I grow stronger...and further from you.\"<br />WARNING: Do not take any of my comments seriously unless they are technical in nature and then only at your own risk
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On the other thread about this thing someone lipped off to me when I said that it's location is a little unsafe. One bad pothole and you are gonna be out 3 grand. I would just weld some kind of plate under it to protect it.97 Camaro RS<br /><br />\"Just a V6 huh?, let\'s go find out how slow it is\"
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Welded plate means hot plate plus less ground clearance plus hell of a time getting that plate off when it gets bent up against the turbo.. Bad turbo placement is bad turbo placement.00\' firebird v6 5spd<br />201rwhp ---- 230 rwtq<br />\"Everyday I grow stronger...and further from you.\"<br />WARNING: Do not take any of my comments seriously unless they are technical in nature and then only at your own risk
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yeah i dont like that setup either... maybe if it was up closer to the engine, like where the y comes together, maybe... but tiago's kit rocks, i want one \m/ and did anyone count how many stop signs that guy ran?
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I still wanted to see him light them up, break loose.. or try and go over a speed bump...00\' firebird v6 5spd<br />201rwhp ---- 230 rwtq<br />\"Everyday I grow stronger...and further from you.\"<br />WARNING: Do not take any of my comments seriously unless they are technical in nature and then only at your own risk
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What are you guys smoking? You aren't going to drag that turbo on a speed bump... it sits where the factory muffler sits. There is plenty of ground clearance.Matt<br />2000 Firebird<br /><br /><a href=\"http://www.fullthrottlev6.com/forums/index.php?\" target=\"_blank\">FullThrottleV6.com</a>
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how bout this. that car looked like a stock lt1 or even an l98. i think it needs alot more refiniement and needs too be planned better. and i no that turbo wont get smashed on a pothole, but it is in the worst damn location possible. i remeber when people told me and tiago that our kits sucked because the turbo placement is too far from the head and it wont be efficient at all. well, take a look at this "thing" . the only cool thing is the room in the engine bay. i personally think it is junk and who wants too buy junk? andbtw....any turbo car with an open external wastegate is gonna make that same noise so that is no reason too buy the kit either!!!!!boost, you got it???
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wow 7 foot of intake piping, that turbo must be HELLACIOUSly small to get "full" boost by 3000 rpms. Another thing is, Alot of air in that 7 foot of pipe is going to be SUPER heated, probably more than the average charge air would be because there is So much of it. Also is this setup intercooled?? if not ITS A WASTE OF TIME. Non intercooled boost is like sending exaust temp air into your Cylinders, does that sound like its good for any thing or even remotely working close to optimum effiecency???? JUNK! [img]graemlins/thumbsdown.gif[/img]91 Eagle Talon Awd Turbo 5 speed FOR SALE 6000$<br />Looking for a Fiero GT<br /><a href=\"http://www.swdsm.net\" target=\"_blank\">www.swdsm.net</a>
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<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by 97 30th RS:
Check it out here
www.discountchips.net/2kss/videos/turbolt1final.mpg<hr></blockquote>
Sorry to bring this up from the grave, but who's care is that? If I'm not mistaken that's the FAU Boca campus parking lot, I've made a few small videos there myself. I swear I've seen that car too.1997 Camaro v6 3.8 <br />Bone Stock, just a little slower then most station wagons.<br />**Either the slowest SS or the prettiest v6**
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Well, since the turbo is so far away from the intake and all that tubing inbetween the air may cool down but not enough you need to add an intercooler in there somewhere because hot air from a turbo is no good. and you may want to check the air pressure near the intake because you may lose some with all that tubeing.
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<blockquote>quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by SLIM:
Well, since the turbo is so far away from the intake and all that tubing inbetween the air may cool down but not enough you need to add an intercooler in there somewhere because hot air from a turbo is no good. and you may want to check the air pressure near the intake because you may lose some with all that tubeing.<hr></blockquote>
Don't forget turbo lag.<b><a href=\"http://members.cox.net/95batmobile/d86f.jpg\" target=\"_blank\">Sinister Six©</b></a><br /><a href=\"http://www.sounddomain.com/id/95batmobile\" target=\"_blank\">My \'95 Bird</a><br />I am not afraid of storms, for I am learning how to sail my ship.
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I'm not an expert on turbos but I thought that they ran the best when they got warm. How could this ever get warm? Has anyone ever measured the temperature of exhaust when it is exiting the tailpipes? I can guarantee its not the same as if the turbo was mounted where it should be, as close as possible to the heads. But on the other side, I don't think the setup needs an intercooler. By the time the exhaust has reached the turbo, the pipe has cooled the exhaust down and now the charge has to travel all the way back to the engine compartment. Sounds like 14 ft of intercooler to me. I just wonder how much longer it takes to spool 14 ft of pipe to 6 psi (or 14psi) than it does a normal turbo setup. The really only problem I have with this setup is the air filter placement. It seems very easy to get it dirty or wet and it would be a pain to maintain it.
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I think what they preach is the fact that the exhaust velocity is very high and that there is no huge difference in their setup opposed to the setup of 99% of other kits which are as close to the heads as possible.97 Camaro RS<br /><br />\"Just a V6 huh?, let\'s go find out how slow it is\"
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