turbo project update

[FuryCharger]

OK, so I went ahead and preped the motor for FI last week, 130# springs, turbo cam, double timing chain.

I deleted the whole A/C system and egr system as well.

I bought a whole custom setup for my camaro off Ebay and the problem was the Y pipe wouldnt fit properly. One side was about an inch short of the manifold. So after some hammer pounding and ghetto rigging, I have it fairly tight.

Then I had to remove the front sway bar. Theres no way around leaving it on with the Y pipe.

I cut out the grill portion on the front where the fog lights are and am confused on how to install my FMIC. and I can already tell that routing the pipes and tapping the oil pan is gonna be a pain in the ***

[RyanAndyBob]

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ouch, thats ebay for you. your leaving your front swaybar off?! wish you lots of luck

[crysmatic]

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no sway bar is great for drag racing...just don't autocross:) can you chop/weld the y pipe?

ct, stattama have an oil return fitting that threads into the oil level sensor in the pan...no drill/tap required.

was the ebay seller private? what does the intercooler look like? why is routing the i/c piping a pita?

good luck with the build!

[FuryCharger]

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Well its a front mount intercooler. I have no idea where it is suppose to mount. I would like to have it sit just below the washer fluid resevoir and just bolt it in with some brackets but that will leave about 3 inches of it below the splash guard.

Its id say 24x12x4 are the dimensions of the IC.

The oil level sensor has to be above the oil level, I dont know why they sell that but I dont think it will work.

I could chop wed the Y pipe yea but id rather just try and make it fit where its at. Im gonna torque those bolts at the manifold down hard to get it to fit.

[Forced_Firebird]

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It was a pain to get the return line in. I would suggest getting a -10an weld bung, take the pan off and weld it on a bench. I tried to weld it with the pan on the car, and it didn't work. The pan come off fairly easy, give me a shout if you need some advise.

Some guys use a threaded fitting and epoxy it with good results, but I wouldn't feel comfortable doing it.

Another option is use an evacuating pump and dump the oil back into the valve cover.

[FuryCharger]

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I just plan on tapping it with a 3/8 inch tap and fitting. I guess it is a concern about whether or not the oil will return fast enough by gravity. I guess we will find out.

If I do the scavenge pump then thats another 200 dollars and time I dont have.

Any ideas on the intercooler mount?

[FuryCharger]

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Ok, status update: Yesterday I mounted the massive intercooler I have. I cut out a lot of the foam crap in the bumper and cut out the black plastic between the foglights. I then mounted it on an angle where the bottom is down by the air dam and the top is between the fog lights. I fabricated brackets for it and it sits real nice.

Tonight I am gonna try and do the PCV mod, do the oil feed and returns and mount the turbo.

Tuesday all left will hopefully be routing the piping, install the wastegate and blowoff valve and do an oil change.

[crysmatic]

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honestly, all 3800 turbo kits (cartuning, stattama, zzp) use a fitting in place of the oil level sensor.
http://www.stattama.com/index.cfm?fu...509&product=69

5/8" oil drain from the turbo.
http://www.stattama.com/index.cfm?fu...509&product=77

as for the i/c, it should mount right in front of the rad. if you don't put it in a place where there's a pressure differential across the core, you won't have flow, and it won't work. f-bodies direct air from the air dam...not the front (the airflow isn't obvious). with your setup, make some shielding around the i/c to direct flow.

if you're running 6-9 psi, you can get away without using an i/c. you'll just end up with slightly less hp. alcohol/water injection is a very good alternative to i/c.

[Turbo V6 Camaro]

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honestly, all 3800 turbo kits (cartuning, stattama, zzp) use a fitting in place of the oil level sensor.
http://www.stattama.com/index.cfm?fu...509&product=69

5/8" oil drain from the turbo.
http://www.stattama.com/index.cfm?fu...509&product=77

as for the i/c, it should mount right in front of the rad. if you don't put it in a place where there's a pressure differential across the core, you won't have flow, and it won't work. f-bodies direct air from the air dam...not the front (the airflow isn't obvious). with your setup, make some shielding around the i/c to direct flow.

if you're running 6-9 psi, you can get away without using an i/c. you'll just end up with slightly less hp. alcohol/water injection is a very good alternative to i/c.

i never had luck with that thing even wit ha PSI reducer on the turbo

[FuryCharger]

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Ok update:

The past few days have been ok. I have routed all my piping and it lines up pretty good.

Last night I installed my FMU but it looks like I am going to have to boil the fuel line to expand it in order for the 1/4" line to fit the 5/16" nipples. Ill do that tonight. I also have to figure out how to secure the existing fuel return line to the FMU cause it has the stock connection still on it.

Did the PCV mod yesterday. Still looking for a breather that fits.

I mounted the wastegate two days ago which wasnt to bad.

I screwed my 5/16" oil fitting into the oil pan and JB'd it. I gotta run the return line which I will do tonight.

I have to run all the vacuum lines tonight from my wastegate, turbo, FMU, EVAP and throttle body.

After that I will change my oil and fire her up! Wish me luck

[youngsc]

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Need pics, post visuals. Sounds like it's a sweet build, can't wait to SEE it and HEAR it.

[crysmatic]

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i never had luck with that thing even wit ha PSI reducer on the turbo

first, you were right, i was wrong. i called comp cams, and they confirmed that boost affects redline. fyi, they suggested 130# springs for ~6500 rpm and 15# boost...and 105# springs are in the 6200+ rpm range.

and are you saying you didn't have luck with the turbo oil system - or a certain part of it?

good luck furycharger!

[Turbo V6 Camaro]

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first, you were right, i was wrong. i called comp cams, and they confirmed that boost affects redline. fyi, they suggested 130# springs for ~6500 rpm and 15# boost...and 105# springs are in the 6200+ rpm range.

and are you saying you didn't have luck with the turbo oil system - or a certain part of it?

good luck furycharger!

i'm saying with oil return below the oil line didn't work work out for me

[FuryCharger]

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OK, update:

completed the whole car last night. I did all the vacuum lines, clamped the piping, tied off the FMU, changed the oil, filled the radiator, and got it all ready to fire up.

So I went to fire it up and low and behold I couldnt find my camaro keys! unbelievable.....I couldnt believe it. So now I have to find my keys or go to the dealership and get another one made.

The only problem with that is that I have remote locks, so now I dont know how I will lock my car, cause I dont have a lock key.