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    ok so im prettymuch putting a powerdyne with 6-7 psi on my BASICAALy stock camaro...i went to a tuning shop today and starting questioning him...hes basicaaly saying the stock 3800 puts down 140hp or less to the wheels and that i shouldnt expect anymore than 180 outta my supercharge setup? is this true? im sad now.

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    Re: powerdyne expectations :(

    the tune guy mayb know alot abt the cars......a 3.8 delivers200 at the crank....and with the drivetrain of 15%-20% loss it should have around 160 at the wheels........and than the boast...ur tune guy must b mistaken.

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    • #3
      Re: powerdyne expectations :(

      id say at 6-7 psi you should be looking at 230 or so to the wheels.

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      • #4
        Re: powerdyne expectations :(

        you will easily be over 200 at the wheels after the supercharger. My guess would be 245-250 rwhp range
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          Re: powerdyne expectations :(

          ok thank god...that really made me question my investment...

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          • #6
            Re: powerdyne expectations :(

            I remember James Bawkey's (the one who created the kit) '95 1/2 Camaro with a Y87 package put down 160rwhp. He wanted a base dyno before the PD. This Camaro was bone stock with paper filter and stock exhaust and everything.

            The only mod it had was a 9psi powerdyne with a K&N CAI and it put down 256rwhp. That's almost 100rwhp with just a SC--stock fuel pump, exhaust, engine, and such. he didn't even change the plugs. That's not too bad.

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            • #7
              Re: powerdyne expectations :(

              i didnt realize you had a powerdyne thor...how is it? what shall i expect? is it really silent? :/ have any times or vids?

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              • #8
                Re: powerdyne expectations :(

                i used to have a powerdyne. i made around 245 on 6 psi back when my motor was stock. my car made 183 NA. ive got a video on youtube if you search for supercharged v6 camaro youll find it.
                Dave:
                00 Supercharged Camaro - RIP
                97 Turbo Camaro - Sold

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                • #9
                  Re: powerdyne expectations :(

                  average stock 3.8Ls produce 10-12 RWHP per PSI with superchargers. Average stock 3.8Ls make 160ish to 180ish RWHP.

                  The guy maybe thinking of the 3.4L when he gave you those numbers.

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                    Re: powerdyne expectations :(

                    Originally posted by Linxs
                    average stock 3.8Ls produce 10-12 RWHP per PSI with superchargers. Average stock 3.8Ls make 160ish to 180ish RWHP.

                    The guy maybe thinking of the 3.4L when he gave you those numbers.
                    I just installed my S/C on 6psi and it doesn't feel anywhere near 60-72+hp.
                    1998 Red T-top V6 Camaro
                    - K&N Filter, Pacesetter Headders, MagnaFlow 2.5" Hi-Flo Cat, FlowMaster 80 Series, PowerDyne Supercharger@9Psi More 2 Come

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                    • #11
                      Re: powerdyne expectations :(

                      Originally posted by RyanAndyBob
                      I just installed my S/C on 6psi and it doesn't feel anywhere near 60-72+hp.
                      then you got problems with something because if you are making 6-7psi you will definitely feel it. My brothers powerdyned car we put together is a beast to drive now
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                      • #12
                        Re: powerdyne expectations :(

                        its called a tune. When you get a tune, it will unleash all the power.
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                        • #13
                          Re: powerdyne expectations :(

                          Originally posted by Kidcamaro98
                          its called a tune. When you get a tune, it will unleash all the power.
                          A tune should not have much to do with my vacuum pressure at all. Its belt driven, so I should be getting almost all boost, just not acquired as efficiently

                          But back on topic, your "guy" needs to read up a little bit. Are you taking this to just a mechanic, or a performance shop? they know their stuff alot better about this kinda thing than just a mechanic.
                          Last edited by RyanAndyBob; 11-29-2007, 02:24 PM.
                          1998 Red T-top V6 Camaro
                          - K&N Filter, Pacesetter Headders, MagnaFlow 2.5" Hi-Flo Cat, FlowMaster 80 Series, PowerDyne Supercharger@9Psi More 2 Come

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                          • #14
                            Re: powerdyne expectations :(

                            its accually a tuning/ performance shop speciffically for fbodys and other lsx powered cars...just anouther v guy underestimating the v6?

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                            • #15
                              Re: powerdyne expectations :(

                              Originally posted by RyanAndyBob
                              A tune should not have much to do with my vacuum pressure at all. Its belt driven, so I should be getting almost all boost, just not acquired as efficiently
                              who said anything about vacuum pressure? i agree with kidcamaro.. a TUNE is much needed for any boosted car.
                              Dave:
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