starting operation bad *** 3800

[firebirddrvr]

Re: starting operation bad *** 3800

yeah im with 97rs....seems like wasted money...a .040 overbore i would not recommend n/a i went with .030 over because i heard thats the max suggested, especially if youre going turbo. also it will be more like a 4.1 or 4.2 depending on the kit and the only one i know of on the market right now is the 4.2 stroker kit from c.o.m.e. racing.

as far as first fbody stroked this would not be the case...there is someone on cardomain with a stroked camaro. dudes got all kinds of money. last i knew he was trying to sell the car for like 25k

[bwkmaro]

Re: starting operation bad *** 3800

accually much thought has gone into it months of it and the stroker kit is a 4.2l and the biggest bore u can go is .06 over but boosted its not safe at all prob not n/a either and also show me a this kind of set up to get the perfect set of parts plz. there isnt... oh and if i blow it i blow it its the risk u take even just driving ur car. turbo is far down the road too and yes im gunna change alot around for it prob just get a whole new motor

[bwkmaro]

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oh i am making the long tubes custom with one of my friends i have 3.42s and a lsd but its staying that way and also i have alot of money in my suspention and braking already that was first im not a striaght line kinda guy i love a good windy road and were i live thats all we got so im in heaven but i want more power so i can steer with my right foot

[firebirddrvr]

Re: starting operation bad *** 3800

all i was saying with the bore is that if youre going turbo i wouldnt even bother bore unless .020 over. i was ok with .030 over because im trying to hit an N/A goal. also shop that built it just does it...they say when they rebuild an old motor they dont bore less than .030 over....idk why i guess just habit

[pace2006]

Re: starting operation bad *** 3800

Why the XP cam? That's more for supercharged applications, rather than NA or turbocharged cars. You'd probably be better off with a custom NA grind.

[97rs4life]

Re: starting operation bad *** 3800

accually much thought has gone into it months of it and the stroker kit is a 4.2l and the biggest bore u can go is .06 over but boosted its not safe at all prob not n/a either and also show me a this kind of set up to get the perfect set of parts plz. there isnt... oh and if i blow it i blow it its the risk u take even just driving ur car. turbo is far down the road too and yes im gunna change alot around for it prob just get a whole new motor

this post right here proves the thought and research has not gone into it.

.06 over is not going to happen with these engines, water jacket issues. .030 max on a NA car. Also you picked a supercharger cam for an all out NA build and also a cam that will not work with the stroker kit because you need smaller lobes to work with the stroker. So you need to go with a custom cam or a shelf cam like the xp and have it reworked to work with the stroker. So by that time why not research and get a cam that will make more power and is made for a stroker motor and not a supercharged car?

If your end goal is turbo, why would you waste the time and money building an NA motor only to later pull it out and rebuild a whole new motor? Do it right the first time.

I am anxious to see your future threads and the headaches you run into. I now have some entertainment in the months ahead.

Don't take it the wrong way though, I just hate to see someone waste their time and money in something that could have been prevented the first time around with a little patience and thought

[firebirddrvr]

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i honestly though would like to see you go the way of the stroker kit. it may not make as much power....but what a sick n/a ride it would be. i actually wanted to do the stroker kit myself but didnt have another 2200-3000 dollars lol

[97rs4life]

Re: starting operation bad *** 3800

i honestly though would like to see you go the way of the stroker kit. it may not make as much power....but what a sick n/a ride it would be. i actually wanted to do the stroker kit myself but didnt have another 2200-3000 dollars lol

stroker make more power than a stock block. Not sure what you mean by not as much power. Then the torque is amazing as well

The COME kit is made to handle boost too unlike the zzp one that was discontinued because it was too weak

edit: had MACE and COME mixed up

[firebirddrvr]

Re: starting operation bad *** 3800

i appologize i meant to say the turbo would make more power than a stroker, but would still like to see the stroker done. what is the mace kit? ive never heard of it. only one ive heard of is the one from c.o.m.e.

[97rs4life]

Re: starting operation bad *** 3800

i appologize i meant to say the turbo would make more power than a stroker, but would still like to see the stroker done. what is the mace kit? ive never heard of it. only one ive heard of is the one from c.o.m.e.

bah my bad, mixing up the aussie companies. ha. yea the COME kit is the stroker

[StrtRacer98]

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sounds like a hot steamy load of b.s. to me...

he has contradicted himself too many times, and sounds like he has no idea what hes going to do.

he says he's researched it alot, but you guys have proved him wrong.

either:
a. he has a lot of money - no brains and is pouring it into a car that wont work
b. z38 camaro

[firebirddrvr]

Re: starting operation bad *** 3800

oooooo magic lotto machine time!

i emailed those guys a while back at come racing because i was and still am interested in someday stroking the 3.8 if i get a great job lol, and they told me i could see anywhere between 50-65 horsepower...just to give everyone a lil heads up and i believe their packages run from around 2200 to over 3k

[ssms5411]

Re: starting operation bad *** 3800

sounds like a hot steamy load of b.s. to me...

he has contradicted himself too many times, and sounds like he has no idea what hes going to do.

he says he's researched it alot, but you guys have proved him wrong.

either:
a. he has a lot of money - no brains and is pouring it into a car that wont work
b. z38 camaro

Thats too funny, can we do a poll? Add
C. Both A & B

Should of went with forged pistons/W built engine nice N/A cam that will take boost , and then turbo it with methanol injection, would of made a nice project.

[BallerMaro13]

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lol strtracer & ssms...

z38 lives on!!!

[bwkmaro]

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yea.. got the cam today and realized got the wrong **** so i already sent it back ended up just getting the vs cam from zzp and i have alot of work to do b4 itlll see a car but ive been knocked b4 i can take it ill put it all together and see what happens if its f ed up then i learned sumthing but im not gunna **** up when i put 450 at the crank and at least 350 at the wheels ill post the dyno sheets and wtf is z38 camaro