3.8 firebird or 3.8 camaro

[PalmHarborBlkv6]

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Funny when the GM tests were done prior to the sale of the car they got much, much worse mileage than you all do. I suppose all the hard driving, spinning of the tires was
largely responsible for getting much better mileage that the ratings given to the car when it was new. One of you say you are getting 480 miles to a tank of gas (30 mpg)...that's great...better than some hybrids. You all should write Car and Driver and let them know, they would be excited to try the car out.

[fbodyrs96]

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Guess all these people are wrong to. http://www.fueleconomy.gov/mpg/MPG.d...t&model=Camaro

[1997Canadian3.8]

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Funny when the GM tests were done prior to the sale of the car they got much, much worse mileage than you all do. I suppose all the hard driving, spinning of the tires was
largely responsible for getting much better mileage that the ratings given to the car when it was new. One of you say you are getting 480 miles to a tank of gas (30 mpg)...that's great...better than some hybrids. You all should write Car and Driver and let them know, they would be excited to try the car out.

Stop pissing into the wind.
Remember GM also has a long history of underrating engines. You can't always take #s literally. When our cars were built MPG wasn't as big of an issue as it is today. Gas was cheaper and MPG was not a huge selling feature of a car.

According to the EPA my Equinox is "supposed" to get 23 mpg highway. I have gotten 25 mpg multiple times... And in daily driving where it's "supposed" to get 17 mpg (mostly city) I get 20 mpg. Just saying.

[PalmHarborBlkv6]

Re: 3.8 firebird or 3.8 camaro

the ratings were not done nor are they ever done by the manufacturer...always the EPA.
MPG always has been an issue, thus the successes in 2000,2001,2002 for Honda, Toyota, Nissan. This car is almost 4,000 pounds with a good size engine....to get 20 plus mpg going from 10mph to 2mph to 20mph...back to 2 mph as is most traffic during rush hour in most major metro ares.....is wishful thinking. Many people love their cars soooo much, they are willing to exaggerate to show everyone what a great care THEY own. That's fine....tell people you do 11 seconds in the quarter mile, that you beat a Corvette last week its all good.

[1997Canadian3.8]

Re: 3.8 firebird or 3.8 camaro

the ratings were not done nor are they ever done by the manufacturer...always the EPA.
MPG always has been an issue, thus the successes in 2000,2001,2002 for Honda, Toyota, Nissan. This car is almost 4,000 pounds with a good size engine....to get 20 plus mpg going from 10mph to 2mph to 20mph...back to 2 mph as is most traffic during rush hour in most major metro ares.....is wishful thinking. Many people love their cars soooo much, they are willing to exaggerate to show everyone what a great care THEY own. That's fine....tell people you do 11 seconds in the quarter mile, that you beat a Corvette last week its all good.

Hahahahaha.

You caught me, I have a love affair with my car and I want to gloat with other people who have the same car about how good mine is on gas...... :cry:

I have an Excel file I update every week of my miles driven, price of gas, gallons used and the type of driving I did during each tank of gas. It tracks my MPG, Miles driven and expenses. I will gladly send it to you so you can inspect my numbers if you so choose.

I really don't understand how you can tell all these people in this thread that they're wrong.

Guys! Turbo chargers don't add horsepower! You're just lying because you love your car so much! Your Turbo V6 wont run 12s!!!

[thebeewantsboost]

Re: 3.8 firebird or 3.8 camaro

17 in town 27 on the highway for me.

[PalmHarborBlkv6]

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Copy and past that file so we can see it.
Eleven seconds for the quarter mile for the 3.8...sure it wasn't 10.5?

[PalmHarborBlkv6]

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tested 2014 Corvette:
Zero to 60 mph: 3.9
Zero to 100 mph: 8.7
Zero to 130 mph: 15.1 sec
Rolling start, 5–60 mph: 4.5 sec
Top gear, 30–50 mph: 11.4 sec
Top gear, 50–70 mph: 10.2 sec
Standing ¼-mile: 12.2 sec @ 117 mph
Top speed (C/D est): 190
Braking, 70–0 mph: 146 ft
Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad*: 1.08 g
DOES THE QUARTER IN 12.2....SO THE 3.8 Turbo would beat the new 2014 Corvette?

[Gutless]

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I might be a little lost, but why are we comparing a new 14 vette that costs 50K+ to a 15 year old V6 F body that costs MAYBE $5k?

Of course the $5K 4th gen isnt going to be as good as the vette, if it was the vette would either be a pile of crap or you wouldnt have a $5K 4th gen.

I dont see 30 highway out of possibility in a t5 car thats low optioned.

Maybe im misreading it, i dont know.

Nobody said the EPA knew what they were doing.

And i dont know where the 4000lb mark is coming from. Local LS z28 was down to 3150 and had AC and no insulation taken out.

Pontiacs are a bit heavier, like 100 than a camaro from what ive seen, more curvey, usually more options. I can see 3800lbs in a LT1 WS6 with leather and power everything. But in a V6 car that was probably lower optioned, I dont see it. Mine weighs 3500 and thats with the blower, T tops, power windows, locks, ect.

[Atrum Rosa]

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I find the Firebird more sexy and aggressive looking than the Camaro, plus the '98+ Trans Am/Firehawks have always been my dream car.

I think the interiors look a little more jet-fighter like as well, which is cool. Replacing a stripped headlight gear with a metal one is super simple as well.

[caffeine]

Another thing to consider is sometimes a modded car will get better gas mileage because of a better tune. Also removing the catalytic converter and/or a free flowing exhaust usually can cause an increase in fuel economy.

In my experience I've always found EPA fuel economy ratings to be inaccurate.

And plenty of people have run 11s with turbo V6s...

[EarlR]

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the ratings were not done nor are they ever done by the manufacturer...always the EPA.
MPG always has been an issue, thus the successes in 2000,2001,2002 for Honda, Toyota, Nissan. This car is almost 4,000 pounds with a good size engine....to get 20 plus mpg going from 10mph to 2mph to 20mph...back to 2 mph as is most traffic during rush hour in most major metro ares.....is wishful thinking. Many people love their cars soooo much, they are willing to exaggerate to show everyone what a great care THEY own. That's fine....tell people you do 11 seconds in the quarter mile, that you beat a Corvette last week its all good.

Man...I almost posted something in the other thread about mpg, but this...you really should just stfu when you have no clue what you're talking about. The EPA only tests a small percentage of the models, most of the mpg figures you see are from the manufacturer, who test based on the EPA's criteria. Also, the 4th gen Camaro is a 3300-3400 lb car depending on engine, I have no idea where you get the 4000 lbs from. And my '02 3.8 T5 Camaro was averaging 23-24 mpg in mixed city/hwy driving (mostly stop-and-go), in a 120-mile round trip commute. It got 29-30 mpg several times on long highway-only trips. I can't comment on the 11 second quarter, but I have seen video....

Now please, go crawl back under your rock.

[Rob Bell]

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Maybe the Camaro is lighter, but I just checked the sticker on my 02 Bird, and it's 4202 lbs GVWR. Mileage is usually 22-23 city and 26-28 highway, going steady 80 mph usually.

[techsan23]

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Maybe the Camaro is lighter, but I just checked the sticker on my 02 Bird, and it's 4202 lbs GVWR. Mileage is usually 22-23 city and 26-28 highway, going steady 80 mph usually.

You want curb weight which is probably closer to 3500.

[PalmHarborBlkv6]

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Does not the sticker tell the truth....4202?
A car's gross weight is its curb weight plus the weight of its driver. You guys are overstating every thing about this car....I appreciate the loyalty of the owners
but facts are facts.